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greetings and salutations old friends

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and hopefully some new friends and

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welcome to truth seekers i'm stephen

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cambion your host

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and tonight uh is i'm very excited about

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because

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uh a lot of you know that i have a

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background in computer science and

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having that sort of background makes me

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somebody who really appreciates data

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and i found this book which is amazing

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and

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it is just filled

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the whole thing is filled with ufo data

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it's called the ufo sightings desk

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reference

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uh and uh it is by

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linda miller

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costa and uh tonight's guest uh

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co-authored uh by cheryl costa

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um i don't i did not want to waste too

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much time with a you know

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a big intro or anything like that

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i want to have as much time for

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questions and comments and questions

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from the audience as well i'm curious to

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see what it is that the data

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uh what ms costa has learned from

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compiling all of this incredible ufo

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data into one

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desk reference so uh let's welcome miss

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costa welcome ms costa hi how you doing

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good good to see you i i told you i'm a

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computer science guy and and honestly

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i'm getting tired of these uh

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books full of fake sources

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fake stories fake people

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that that surround the ufo topic these

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vultures that rush in to try to make

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money off of the subject

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and so finding your book was kind of

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like a breath of fresh air because here

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is compiled data and research that spans

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how many years does the does the data in

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this book span

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this book this version of the book is

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2001 to 2020. so 20 it's a 20-year

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sample of data

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wow

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and

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first i want to ask you what got you

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interested in the subject of ufos to

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begin with before we get

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more deep into the book side of things

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um

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i was 12 years old and saw my first one

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with my mother and father it was late

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august afternoon about three weeks

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before school

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went back into session

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and uh was a sunday afternoon we're

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coming down off a hill in the country

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from my uncle's farm and my mother had

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my father pulled the car off the dirt

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road a little bit and pointed out to a

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clear blue

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western sky and parked out there like a

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rock was this silver ball

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and give you an idea how big it is if

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you hold out your arm look at your

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little fingernail that's about how big

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it was from a perspective

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and um we sat there for 20 minutes

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talking about it my mother said it might

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be something the air force is doing nasa

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was only five or six years old at that

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point she explained that

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and then she said you know i might be

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people from another world of course that

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fascinated me as a 12 year old

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uh when we got the car down to the

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bottom of the hill and got onto the

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state road um i got up in the back

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window of that big old chevy impala the

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16 1965 this was and i'm sitting up

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there and going who are you guys who are

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you guys and when that thing decided to

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leave it was one of these proof things

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starship movies now gone

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and um that changes you

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and you know when you're 12 13 years old

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mom and dad are sort of stupid you know

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that kind of thing and uh

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but my mom and i well we disagreed on a

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whole lot of things

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we did not disagree on this topic later

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we got books in the library she'd read

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one i'd read one we kind of give each

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other a little book report kind of

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things about it

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when von danigan's book came out uh

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chariots of the gods i was in fact

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it was like uh wow you know she

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dog-eared on the top i dog-eared on the

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bottom the book got torn pieces you know

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um and then i just was casually read all

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the rest of my life and

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i went in the military right out of high

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so there was this issue of security

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clearances uh they frowned on people

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being part of mufon that kind of thing

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i stayed well nowadays everybody frowns

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on anybody being part of move font well

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yeah and horizon yeah

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whatever credibility they had is

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circling the drain

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well the bottom line was um i

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basically just read things you know and

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then uh every now and then i got an

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opportunity to stay at somebody's house

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who happened to have a huge library of

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this stuff and i i just kept well read

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uh what really got me going on this was

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in 2012 i was working for a newspaper i

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not a reporter yet

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and uh there was a little sidebar story

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and i happened to glance at it and a

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little 150 200 word story said ufos have

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been declining since the 1980s maybe

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they were always just an urban legend

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and my gut my gut instinct says wait a

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minute that doesn't sound right that

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misinformation

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so for the first time in my life this is

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in 2000 november of 2012

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national ufo reporting center's website

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googled it and i went in there and i got

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a couple pages back onto the thing found

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some end of year totals pulled them out

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and started throwing them into a

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spreadsheet and the the chart went up

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like a rocket

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i thought to myself wait a minute

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they're supposed to have been declining

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what memo did the ufos get you know

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somebody was wrong with their data or

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with their analysis of the data right

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exactly so what happened after that was

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the the way it worked at the newspaper

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when once the press starts running

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running the morning edition we got about

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two hours to kill while the press is

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running and after it's done we all go

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and so i was just sitting there looking

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at other stories the next the follow on

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i was expecting to see a lot of wacky

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stuff but most people were extremely

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usually you'd see a line like i was

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walking the dog and this the dog went

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stiff we saw this thing you know my wife

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and i were on the hood of my car

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watching the stars when this thing we

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never thought believe really existed

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that kind of stuff so i started i was

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finishing up a writing degree i was

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retired from lockheed martin at this

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point i had 32 years

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interesting you've got an interesting

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life here because you're in the military

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you work for lockheed martin you're an

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investigative journalist you did a

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podcast sort of or a show like a radio

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show right about yeah oh yeah i i've had

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many radio shows wow yeah interesting so

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the bottom line was i start i took some

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of these stories that had no who in them

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you know who when where why well if i

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knew why and i told later i told an

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editor if i knew why and i could prove

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it i'd be getting a pulitzer and a nobel

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prize

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we can't tell we can't tell you who

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because the the database won't share

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that publicly and we don't have the

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level of clearance into uh new fork or

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mufon's data to know who it is and we

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don't want to out anybody either this is

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terrible stigma you know

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so um i i just started writing the

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stories very matter-of-factly and i

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pitched about six or seven editors and

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they chased me out of their offices and

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called me a crackpot and everything

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finally uh an editor at a local weekly

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said come on up let's talk i hear you're

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so i went up to talk to him and we

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talked for about 20 minutes before he

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even looked at my proposal

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it turned out he was very very

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um sympathetic to the topic matter he

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says i can't write this kind of a column

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but you can so i gave him four issues a

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four episode or four articles and he

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said i'll try you out for a month

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and he had this tone kind of like from

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the princess bride like the dead pri

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dread pirate roberts i'll most likely

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kill you in the morning i'll take you

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did this and about a month later called

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them up and says sheryl come on over we

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gotta talk i thought that's it it's over

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with you know i get in there

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and he's got a couple of other

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columnists in rome as i walked in a

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couple minutes late for the meeting and

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he points at me and says there's our

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i said what are you doing what are you

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talking about he's you're pulling more

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page views and remember this is a web

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yeah they did they didn't have the

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advertising real estate put me in the

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printed paper towards the end they

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almost did but the paper went out of

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business before that but most newspapers

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are now yeah boy they've been dropping

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like flies up here in upstate new york

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are being bought by gannett one or the

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other well the bottom line was um he

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said just keep doing what you're doing

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six months later the digital editor who

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i it was my contact in i was always

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freelance i was never actually an

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employee i was a paid freelancer for

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sure there's lots of freelance yeah and

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uh so what happened was i was writing

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all these columns and they took me in

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six months later the digital editor and

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you're drawing a national audience

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huh on a weekly paper of upstate new

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york and he says yeah and at the

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christmas party him and the publisher

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took me up in front of everybody says

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she's drawing an international audience

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that's how big the column came out of of

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a dinky little paper in upstate new york

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well it just shows goes to show you how

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popular the topic is oh yeah and has

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become and there's always

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you know even people i know that don't

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have a huge interest in ufos when they

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popular i suppose yeah well that and

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they share it with their friends

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if they know friends are interested in

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the topic and the way i wrote these

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articles back then was i always wrote

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them

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less sensational i didn't want to do big

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sighting you know no i simply

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i wrote the story up very much like the

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car wreck down in the corner and the

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fire across town the robbery over on the

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other block you know i made it very a

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matter of fact people resonated with the

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fact that i was treating it like any

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other story

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and that when i got a lot of fan mail

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like that

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so

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happening

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um people don't realize when you write a

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column people say wow that must be fun i

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said think of it this way i got a four

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to five hundred word term paper i've

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gotta deliver every thursday night

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you know

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something sometimes there's nothing

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worse than being there on wednesday

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evening and knowing you haven't written

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a word you know

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are we there are we okay no yeah we're

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okay somebody's mentioning that my audio

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volume is low yours is a tad low all

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right i'm gonna i'm gonna crank it up

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then okay great with me so ultimately

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what we did was sometimes i started

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going and looking since new york state

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was my b the column was called new york

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skies

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um i would start adding up the numbers

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either from new fork or from mufon for

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that county

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that's how i started doing the

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statistics and um we ended up doing new

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york state one year in 2015 we did new

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york state the whole state

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okay 60 counties 60 odd counties 62

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counties

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and we started showing the data to some

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of the old-time mufon investigators

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mufon

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directors and things here in the state

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and these guys are looking at so we

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didn't know there was a cluster there we

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didn't know there was a cluster there

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either what did you do different we

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added county data neither database had

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county data

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those

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cities suddenly you start getting a

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bigger picture

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and um

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uh

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that's when linda and i were sitting now

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one night in our pub uh talking look at

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all the cool stuff we found and

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we said what if we did the whole country

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yeah we figured it'd take us a year it

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took us 18 months

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and linda's approach and plea here's

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this is the thing i'm sorry she couldn't

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be here with this

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um the corn pollen neck pollen but corn

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silk stuff up here yeah it's killing us

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right it's killing us right now um

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she's the scientist of the two of us

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she's got the real bona fide science

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degrees okay she used to be at the

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national academy of science she was the

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head librarian at the toxicology library

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at the epa for 15 years

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sharp lady and she says let's do a

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scientifically driven

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census of ufos and she did some research

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and nobody had done anything like this

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since project blue book 50 60 years

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before

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so we said okay let's do this now here's

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the deal that's another reason why i

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usually talk at the national conventions

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because i've got the arts intent

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entertainment degree and the writing

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degree i got the top hat and the cane

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i'm not scared of a 5 000 people

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audience you know that kind of thing so

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i get to do all the talks and most of

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the radio shows

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but uh so we actually started working on

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it building it in late 2015 and in

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2016 was our production year and we

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released it in the spring of 2017 and

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covered 2001 through 2015.

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wow that's interesting so you know one

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of the things that book that book that

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that's what this book looked like that

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we call it the white big thick book of

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data yeah yeah two and a half pounds

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that's an awful lot of uh paper yeah so

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let me ask you some questions then sure

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anything

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in the last 20 years are our ufo

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sightings increasing or decreasing

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okay

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starting around 2001.

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to about 2006 they start ramp they start

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i'm going to go up this they start

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ramping up

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okay

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there's a there's a six to eight year

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cycle okay if you go back 30 or 40 years

397
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and look at the look at the thing it's

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like a little little snake going across

399
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the lawn like that

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people used to call it the seven year

401
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cycle it's a six to eight year cycle

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and

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the reason it was ramping up from 2001

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to 2006 being an old i.t person i went

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out and checked some maps on this and

406
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this is when all the major cities

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started having broadband in the major

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metropolitan areas and their suburbs so

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broadband was a driver

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in 2000

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this is not the first year that's still

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part of the 20th century 2000 was

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2000 they had barely 660

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sightings in 2001 we had 4 500. and this

415
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is one of the drivers people have access

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to broadband and easy ability to report

417
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what they see

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so that was less that was one of the

419
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things we learned

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okay so so you think that there was an

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increase in what the internet

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connectivity well at that point at that

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point and then then you then we watched

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the curve go up

425
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okay from 2006 up to about 2010.

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it dips ever so slightly and then it

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starts going up again and it went up

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into the tents and twelves and thirteen

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thousands for the year type of thing and

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then in 2014 it started falling off by

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30 percent a year and bottomed out in

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2017.

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now a lot of people were saying get not

434
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getting on social media oh my god space

435
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force chased them away and oh my god

436
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it's this is that you know

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oh i heard they ran out of grants all

438
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this kind of stuff and i kept trying to

439
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tell people they'll be back in two years

440
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trust me this is part of a natural cycle

441
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nobody believed me

442
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uh so i took 2019 off to work in other

443
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projects because i knew the ufos would

444
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be coming back in 2020 and they did you

445
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know so

446
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that's amazing you could be that precise

447
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with your predictions but i guess

448
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somebody called me up and told me the

449
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numbers were back uh reporter out in the

450
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west coast called me up and told me his

451
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phone's ringing off the hook

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okay i went out to national ufo reporter

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center this is the spring of 2020 just

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before we got locked down

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and uh february and mark

456
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january february were there already and

457
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i grabbed those two numbers from

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national ufo reporting center since it

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was public and i dropped it in i had

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already built a mathematical model id

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person you know

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and

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keep going at this rate we're going to

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have as good a year as we had in 2012 or

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2013

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okay

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and uh it was the best year since then

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for just from two months and and then

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when we went into lockdown i had already

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said on a bunch of radio shows that

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leisure time is a driver

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people have to be out and about coming

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home from bible study to go to get in

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the car hey honey look at that you know

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out walking the dog out first smoke

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dried um out for a break from work at

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the factory in the middle of the night

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leisure time was a driver the

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availability of the observer to see

480
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these things so people said well wait a

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minute if we're getting locked down

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you should have a perfect laboratory to

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measure whether or not you know leisure

484
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time really truly is a thing and march

485
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and april when we got the numbers went

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through the roof

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in 2020.

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well that's interesting confirming what

489
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we knew what i knew but confirming to

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everybody else what we knew

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um so these are the kinds of things

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we're learning we learn from all this

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stuff um

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linda found out when we were working the

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first book

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we had

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pretty much

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tabulated the charts and graphs on the

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idea of scale how much of it there was

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and she looked at me one saturday

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afternoon she's over there working on a

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chapter and she said did you notice that

503
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the monthly chart now a lot of people

504
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told me oh we don't you don't want to do

505
00:20:01,590 --> 00:19:58,799
that monthly chart it's stupid

506
00:20:04,149 --> 00:20:01,600
ufos by month in a year i would think it

507
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was important well it turned out to be

508
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very important because what linda

509
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discovered was as soon as you started

510
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looking at it from a monthly standpoint

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if you're in a northern state

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most of the year is flat and quiescent

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amount of sightings okay

514
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and then you get june july august it

515
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goes through the roof this is what the

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chart looks like okay and then it falls

517
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off again again as you go into the into

518
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the fall and winter months okay

519
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i thought it was like that everywhere

520
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but linda said hey did you notice if

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you're in the middle level states

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that peak starts coming down all the

523
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rest of the levels start coming up and

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then when you get into the deep south

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states it was statistically flat

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okay and uh we said wow who knew this

527
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that temperate weather was a driver

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okay in fact if you get down to the

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really deep parts of texas and florida

530
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those counties there's actually a dip in

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the middle because it's too hot to be

532
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outside in the summer time you know that

533
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kind of thing that's pretty interesting

534
00:21:08,710 --> 00:21:06,960
so human behavior drives a lot of the

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sight yes now there's the golden word

536
00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:10,880
right there this is as much about human

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00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:14,960
behavior as it is about the ufos okay

538
00:21:19,190 --> 00:21:16,559
i like to tell people just think of the

539
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ufos as regularly scheduled flights

540
00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:21,200
there's lots of them up there

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00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:23,520
rarely special flights yes

542
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there are some there are some shapes

543
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that i can pre i can predict where they

544
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are you know that type of thing they're

545
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very small shapes that's a problem we

546
00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:33,200
have in this country too by the way

547
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let's bring that up

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people

549
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always especially um mainstream

550
00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:40,880
reporters talk to us okay they're

551
00:21:45,590 --> 00:21:43,679
they're dumb on this topic okay and they

552
00:21:47,110 --> 00:21:45,600
say well what's the number one mega

553
00:21:48,470 --> 00:21:47,120
sighting what's the one with the most

554
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sightings

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and i said a twinkling light in the sky

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that dances around

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00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:54,320
you know

558
00:21:58,310 --> 00:21:56,000
not much of a thing yeah that could be

559
00:22:00,310 --> 00:21:58,320
anything right it could be anything you

560
00:22:02,149 --> 00:22:00,320
know and and very you know there are a

561
00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:02,159
lot of ufos that you see it's just a

562
00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:03,919
light in the sky and then it stops and

563
00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:05,600
then it dances around like a fairy and

564
00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:07,200
then takes off you know there's a lot of

565
00:22:10,149 --> 00:22:09,039
that kind of stuff going on too but

566
00:22:11,669 --> 00:22:10,159
there are some people sitting there and

567
00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:11,679
saying i saw this big bright star and it

568
00:22:15,669 --> 00:22:14,080
was out it was arturus or it was venus

569
00:22:18,950 --> 00:22:15,679
or something you know

570
00:22:20,149 --> 00:22:18,960
the bottom line was we figured out

571
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:20,159
that

572
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:25,990
darren

573
00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:27,600
it sucks to get old trust me that's all

574
00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:30,240
right i suffer from crs myself oh i

575
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:32,799
can't remember anything

576
00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:34,640
oh okay but bottom line with the whole

577
00:22:40,310 --> 00:22:37,760
thing with the with sightings was there

578
00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:40,320
oh i know it was

579
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:42,159
we discovered two

580
00:22:45,669 --> 00:22:43,440
truths

581
00:22:49,070 --> 00:22:45,679
linda coined the term the myth of the

582
00:22:51,669 --> 00:22:49,080
the the magic or the truth is in the

583
00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:51,679
non-aerodynamic shapes

584
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:53,600
and the other truth that i came up with

585
00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:56,880
was the truth was in the tiny numbers

586
00:23:01,909 --> 00:22:58,720
there is more to learn from something

587
00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:01,919
that only is only maybe reports

588
00:23:07,590 --> 00:23:05,360
400 sightings a year or maybe even 200

589
00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:07,600
sightings a year they will tell you

590
00:23:12,310 --> 00:23:10,080
something very interesting that all the

591
00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:12,320
big numbers won't tell you

592
00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:13,840
i found a couple like that that when i

593
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:15,919
graphed them all together the tiny

594
00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:17,760
number ones were so small you could

595
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:19,840
hardly tell them from the bottom of the

596
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:21,039
graph

597
00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:23,360
the line was so sm was so

598
00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:25,600
close you had to really blow it up to

599
00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:27,520
see it and it was only maybe

600
00:23:35,110 --> 00:23:30,400
40 sightings a year or 70 sightings a

601
00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:35,120
year but that 40 sightings a year ufos

602
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:38,080
that one whenever it shows up so does

603
00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:40,080
two other shapes except in a little bit

604
00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:42,080
higher quantity and they had the same

605
00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:44,320
profiles together so it looked like one

606
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:46,400
the the big the one with the small

607
00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:48,000
sightings was a mother ship and the

608
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:50,080
other two were support craft that's what

609
00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:51,840
a lot of people seem to think when i

610
00:23:55,110 --> 00:23:53,200
showed it to them

611
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:55,120
well that's very interesting and another

612
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:58,080
question i had is sure is there is there

613
00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:00,400
a state in the united states that sees

614
00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:03,039
the most ufo sightings and a state that

615
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:04,880
sees the least

616
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:07,039
okay

617
00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:09,760
the top three in this in the country and

618
00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:11,919
they've been top three probably for

619
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:14,320
about eight years now okay

620
00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:18,960
uh california 21 000 uh uh twenty one

621
00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:21,440
thousand and thirteen sightings

622
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:24,159
uh florida eleven thousand forty three

623
00:24:28,950 --> 00:24:26,240
sightings this is over twenty years

624
00:24:31,190 --> 00:24:28,960
texas forty forty nine

625
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:31,200
i'm sorry nine thousand four hundred

626
00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:33,840
eighty now the next

627
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:36,159
seven slots in the top ten are like

628
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:38,159
musical chairs these states

629
00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:40,240
change around every year okay so so do

630
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:41,840
you think it's just population based

631
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:43,679
though because those would be three no

632
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:45,279
no no no no no it doesn't have a

633
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:47,200
correlation in it that's what oh oh it

634
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:49,120
has a correlation

635
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:53,600
give it to you this way

636
00:24:57,269 --> 00:24:56,400
and did i just hide that thing ah there

637
00:24:59,110 --> 00:24:57,279
it is

638
00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:59,120
we discovered in the first book we

639
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:01,200
didn't know this we we knew population

640
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:03,360
was it was an issue we knew temperate

641
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:04,799
weather was an issue and we were

642
00:25:08,630 --> 00:25:07,760
suspecting leisure time okay

643
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:08,640
now

644
00:25:13,590 --> 00:25:10,880
what we discovered with this new pink

645
00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:13,600
book the new oneness out and make sure

646
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:15,600
you bring me back ask me why it's pink

647
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:17,200
it's a great story

648
00:25:21,909 --> 00:25:19,279
okay

649
00:25:23,350 --> 00:25:21,919
principal drivers are population

650
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:23,360
temperate weather

651
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:24,720
leisure time

652
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:27,679
hours of darkness and observer access to

653
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:29,760
broadband

654
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,559
okay

655
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:32,320
now then there's

656
00:25:38,310 --> 00:25:35,440
five secondary influencers proximity to

657
00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:38,320
large bodies of water proximity to toxic

658
00:25:42,549 --> 00:25:41,679
ecosystems proximity to geological fault

659
00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:42,559
lines

660
00:25:46,230 --> 00:25:44,720
high visibility media

661
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:46,240
and the gen something we call the

662
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:48,640
generational effect

663
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:51,120
wait i i need you to say that again so

664
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:53,520
so because this could be of great

665
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:55,679
benefit to people who want to hunt for

666
00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:56,880
ufos

667
00:26:01,830 --> 00:25:59,039
the most sightings are around toxic

668
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:01,840
environments coastal areas

669
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:02,799
and

670
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:05,120
what did you say nuclear or uh well no

671
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,720
fault lines i'm sorry outlines fault

672
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:08,880
lines uh i'll give you if you found a

673
00:26:12,789 --> 00:26:10,480
fault if you found a place with a fault

674
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:12,799
line near a toxic environment near the

675
00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:13,679
coast

676
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:15,520
you'd have a pretty good shot at seeing

677
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:17,840
some ufos then maybe right well yes in a

678
00:26:22,950 --> 00:26:20,000
better shot or better

679
00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:22,960
yeah well okay if um they tend to okay

680
00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:26,159
this is the the fault line proximity and

681
00:26:30,070 --> 00:26:28,240
the toxic ecosystems

682
00:26:32,950 --> 00:26:30,080
were contributed to me by a colleague

683
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:32,960
here in new york thomas w conwell and he

684
00:26:36,710 --> 00:26:34,480
took our first book and started putting

685
00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:36,720
pins and maps and things on a big wall

686
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:38,320
you know destroyed the wall with the

687
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:39,360
pinholes

688
00:26:43,029 --> 00:26:40,559
and uh

689
00:26:45,269 --> 00:26:43,039
his wife loved it yeah uh but the bottom

690
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:45,279
line was he discovered that they seemed

691
00:26:50,070 --> 00:26:47,440
to haunt our

692
00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:50,080
dead mining towns dead strip mines dead

693
00:26:56,789 --> 00:26:53,600
coal mines coal mounting coal mine fires

694
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:56,799
um dead oil fields dead gas fields

695
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:58,799
heavily polluted heavily you know that's

696
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:01,200
heavily polluted rivers i am in uh

697
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:02,960
pennsylvania and there's a place called

698
00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:04,960
centralia pennsylvania that had to be

699
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:07,039
the whole town had to be evacuated the

700
00:27:11,190 --> 00:27:09,039
government bought everybody's homes oh

701
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:11,200
yeah there's a huge okay yeah because

702
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:13,200
there's this huge coal fire under the

703
00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:16,240
ground yeah and and i hear that the ufo

704
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:18,480
sightings there if you go there you'll

705
00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:21,200
see some ufos almost every night

706
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:23,520
which is crazy to me i have a road trip

707
00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:26,000
for their planned for this for the next

708
00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:27,840
month the only problem with the road

709
00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:29,840
trip there is remember the highways are

710
00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:31,600
sometimes falling into a deep pit

711
00:27:35,909 --> 00:27:34,000
because the fires have ate all this well

712
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:35,919
yeah but i i know it's safe i've been

713
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:37,600
there so i know the safe way to get

714
00:27:41,750 --> 00:27:38,880
there and then

715
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,760
uh explore the town yeah it's it's just

716
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:43,679
an eerie place though because there's

717
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:46,240
just it's like a just a

718
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:51,029
yeah

719
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:52,799
so there's a lot of strange paranormal

720
00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:54,799
happenings around in and around that

721
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:55,760
town

722
00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:58,000
um it's just a mysterious place i love

723
00:28:04,230 --> 00:27:59,200
it

724
00:28:06,630 --> 00:28:04,240
may attract ufos now you're in

725
00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:06,640
pennsylvania aren't you yes i grew up

726
00:28:11,029 --> 00:28:08,159
born and raised in philadelphia now i

727
00:28:13,590 --> 00:28:11,039
live in the suburbs of philadelphia okay

728
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:13,600
pennsylvania was number six for this

729
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:17,840
this book and then and they had 7043

730
00:28:22,230 --> 00:28:20,399
uh sightings over the last 20 years

731
00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:22,240
yeah and also don't you have to keep in

732
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:23,760
mind that these aren't the number of

733
00:28:27,029 --> 00:28:25,200
sightings these are just the number of

734
00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:27,039
reported sightings because many people

735
00:28:29,029 --> 00:28:28,159
don't

736
00:28:34,470 --> 00:28:29,039
yeah

737
00:28:37,590 --> 00:28:34,480
developed some metrics um between the

738
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:37,600
first book and this book uh two polls

739
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:38,720
came out

740
00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:42,880
july 2017 fox pictures did a poll and

741
00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:44,559
and they did pretty much the same thing

742
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:47,200
three percent but 30 percent 36 believe

743
00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:49,279
42 percent are on the fence and 17

744
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:51,200
percent say it's all hogwash okay it's

745
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:53,840
the same thing you keep seeing the polls

746
00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:55,919
but they had some they had an additional

747
00:29:01,149 --> 00:28:59,200
question have you ever seen a ufo

748
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:01,159
and the number came back that was like

749
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:04,000
16.5 percent something like that okay

750
00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:05,600
well i didn't trust the metric because

751
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:07,600
it was this was the first poll it had

752
00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:08,720
ever been in

753
00:29:14,149 --> 00:29:11,600
then in september of 2019 the gallup

754
00:29:16,389 --> 00:29:14,159
people did almost identically the same

755
00:29:18,789 --> 00:29:16,399
poll and they asked the same question

756
00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:18,799
and they came back with that 16 and

757
00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:21,760
change number two so based on that i

758
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:23,279
went back and started crunching the

759
00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:25,840
numbers a bunch of different ways and we

760
00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:28,000
ended up with a bell curve

761
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:28,960
okay

762
00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:31,760
um if you did it for every single state

763
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:34,960
it was one as little as one in 150

764
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:37,360
people report go to the other end of the

765
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:40,399
bell curve it was one in 450 people

766
00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:43,120
report and the bulk of it around the

767
00:29:49,029 --> 00:29:46,159
bell of the curve was sitting around us

768
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:49,039
about one in 250 people reports what

769
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:53,269
give or take give or take 25 50

770
00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:54,799
something like that that's pretty dismal

771
00:29:58,630 --> 00:29:56,720
number but i guess

772
00:30:00,470 --> 00:29:58,640
there used to be quite a stigma of

773
00:30:02,070 --> 00:30:00,480
people that didn't want to talk about it

774
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:02,080
because for fear of ridicule but i think

775
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:04,240
it still is those attitudes are changing

776
00:30:07,269 --> 00:30:05,919
somewhat though now aren't they with the

777
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:07,279
popularity

778
00:30:12,149 --> 00:30:09,600
and the mainstream coverage of

779
00:30:14,149 --> 00:30:12,159
all the all of this stuff i think more

780
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:14,159
people are willing to talk about their

781
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:15,520
experiences

782
00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:18,000
well just just in the past six months so

783
00:30:22,149 --> 00:30:20,240
with all the news that's been out there

784
00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:22,159
but i don't know if you've noticed in

785
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:24,159
the last two or three weeks

786
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:26,640
it's like a door slammed are you seeing

787
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:29,120
any ufo articles i have talked to four

788
00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:31,520
major newspapers and tried to i had

789
00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:34,559
something for them and uh crickets they

790
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:36,799
will not talk to me wow it's interesting

791
00:30:40,389 --> 00:30:38,320
yeah some people theorize that the

792
00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:40,399
government opens and shuts the door at

793
00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:41,360
will

794
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:42,880
you know

795
00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:44,880
yeah sometimes they want people

796
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:46,399
hearing about these things and then they

797
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:53,909
it's it's interesting interesting to see

798
00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:55,600
the government's reaction to some of the

799
00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:57,519
stuff that is being talked about on the

800
00:31:00,870 --> 00:30:59,039
mainstream news

801
00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:00,880
but i'm very distrustful of the

802
00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:02,720
government after all

803
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:04,880
you know in in ufo mythology they've

804
00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:07,039
been doing this cover-up for 70 years

805
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,240
and i don't trust that they're just

806
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:10,559
suddenly going to give us the truth now

807
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:11,279
so

808
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:13,440
you know when we have a live well well

809
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:16,159
intelligence guys running around now

810
00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:18,320
yeah see that's that's what that's what

811
00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:20,159
has been bugging me because

812
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:21,360
um

813
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:22,320
the

814
00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:24,480
inside people that i know

815
00:31:28,590 --> 00:31:25,360
okay

816
00:31:33,110 --> 00:31:28,600
called me up in uh in

817
00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:33,120
2019 late 2019 early 2020 and said look

818
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:36,080
depending upon where the election goes

819
00:31:39,590 --> 00:31:38,240
uh if we end up with biden

820
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,600
uh we're probably going to get

821
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:41,360
disclosure in the next

822
00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:43,279
year or two or at least congressional

823
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:45,200
hearings

824
00:31:48,549 --> 00:31:47,200
and um

825
00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:48,559
when i'm gonna i

826
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,080
those people are what we call the usual

827
00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:52,480
suspects and uh they they were on the

828
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:55,200
inside track and yes bucks county has an

829
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:57,760
awful lot of sightings um the goofy

830
00:32:02,310 --> 00:31:59,600
thing was people kept coming i had

831
00:32:04,230 --> 00:32:02,320
several very candid inside observers

832
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:04,240
saying um do you realize something

833
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:06,159
cheryl linda you're the only people to

834
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:07,919
produce the book of statistics since

835
00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:10,559
project blue book 50 years ago

836
00:32:13,509 --> 00:32:11,919
uh yeah

837
00:32:15,509 --> 00:32:13,519
and they said well if they have

838
00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:15,519
congressional hearings if it doesn't end

839
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:18,480
up being a parade of swaggering pilots

840
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:19,760
and former

841
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:21,760
um indent defense

842
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:24,080
uh intelligence spooks you know

843
00:32:31,509 --> 00:32:28,230
you guys are the only people who've got

844
00:32:34,470 --> 00:32:31,519
the civilian numbers and i said probably

845
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:34,480
so we we talked about it

846
00:32:40,310 --> 00:32:37,360
and said are we okay with the idea

847
00:32:43,509 --> 00:32:40,320
of being two old gay and gay ladies at a

848
00:32:46,149 --> 00:32:43,519
you at a congressional hearing

849
00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:46,159
testifying about our our books i don't

850
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:47,919
really think i don't really think that

851
00:32:51,909 --> 00:32:50,080
is at all relevant if you've got the

852
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:51,919
information and the data i i think

853
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:54,000
they'll take it from anybody right we

854
00:32:59,350 --> 00:32:56,480
would hope we would hope so the thing we

855
00:33:00,870 --> 00:32:59,360
did was we decided early on in 2020 when

856
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:00,880
we actually started doing some of the

857
00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:03,360
preliminary work that we could do even

858
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:05,279
though we didn't have the 2019 numbers

859
00:33:10,070 --> 00:33:07,760
yet we didn't have the 2020 numbers yet

860
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:10,080
in 2020 we started doing some of the

861
00:33:15,029 --> 00:33:12,799
preparatory work so building the book

862
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:15,039
wouldn't take two years to do like it

863
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:17,200
did the last time i built this one in

864
00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:20,880
under 750 hours okay but it's impressive

865
00:33:23,669 --> 00:33:22,480
considering the amount of data that you

866
00:33:27,190 --> 00:33:23,679
had up

867
00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:27,200
but we did all we did a ton of prep work

868
00:33:31,269 --> 00:33:29,440
and hey when when to do that during the

869
00:33:33,190 --> 00:33:31,279
lockdown there was nothing better to do

870
00:33:35,350 --> 00:33:33,200
but drink and watch streaming tv you

871
00:33:37,350 --> 00:33:35,360
know i built a cabin in the woods that's

872
00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:37,360
what i did you really well not the whole

873
00:33:41,110 --> 00:33:39,200
thing i had already started on it but i

874
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:41,120
got a ton done because

875
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:43,600
my wife was home and i usually am daddy

876
00:33:47,750 --> 00:33:45,440
daycare but since she was home i could

877
00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:47,760
go like wednesday to sunday and build

878
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:50,000
this cabin so i made a huge amount of

879
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:51,279
progress

880
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:53,600
still working on it you know do you know

881
00:33:58,230 --> 00:33:55,679
what we discovered though

882
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:58,240
something that we wanted to do with this

883
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:59,039
book

884
00:34:02,149 --> 00:34:00,960
or at least the follow-on version of the

885
00:34:05,350 --> 00:34:02,159
book

886
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:05,360
we discovered that 14-15

887
00:34:12,629 --> 00:34:09,520
of the entries for the city location

888
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:12,639
were spelled wrong

889
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:15,280
okay you can't i.t person you know you

890
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:17,280
can't sort on it if it doesn't look like

891
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:20,000
the other thing you know yeah yeah and

892
00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:22,320
and so if they they were either mixed

893
00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:25,599
case all capitals all lower case a space

894
00:34:32,069 --> 00:34:28,240
in front of the letters um sometimes it

895
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:33,589
carmelville

896
00:34:37,589 --> 00:34:35,599
next to joe's gas station you know you

897
00:34:39,030 --> 00:34:37,599
can't sort on that kind of a field you

898
00:34:41,190 --> 00:34:39,040
know so

899
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:41,200
i made a decision back in the summer of

900
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:45,040
2020 in july we got a golden mail list

901
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:46,960
and we found a way to merge it into the

902
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:49,440
database so we can merge it back out

903
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:51,839
and then we went in there and uh at

904
00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:54,320
about 1500 2 000 lines a day it was like

905
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:55,679
going back to work at lockheed i was

906
00:34:58,390 --> 00:34:57,440
putting in a six and a half seven hour

907
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:58,400
day

908
00:35:04,790 --> 00:35:01,440
for from august of 2020 till the first

909
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:04,800
week of january 2021

910
00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:06,560
fixing the spelling

911
00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:08,480
and while we were fixing that spelling

912
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:10,400
we are correcting counties that might be

913
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:13,440
wrong okay the original automation i had

914
00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:16,079
for putting in the county data was not

915
00:35:19,589 --> 00:35:17,920
as smart as it could be

916
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:19,599
and then the other thing we did was we

917
00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:22,640
added longitude information and zip code

918
00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:23,440
okay

919
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:25,359
and that has given us a window onto

920
00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:28,240
things because we can now plot ufos by

921
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:29,440
zip code

922
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:31,440
it is showing us the interesting thing

923
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:33,520
yeah it's showing us a pattern nobody

924
00:35:40,390 --> 00:35:37,520
ever knew happened before some states um

925
00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:40,400
it looks like moths ate through the

926
00:35:42,870 --> 00:35:41,359
state

927
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:42,880
especially if you make the zip codes

928
00:35:46,470 --> 00:35:44,640
that had the sightings blue and

929
00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:46,480
everything else is white it looks like a

930
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:49,280
moth eaten state it really does

931
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:50,320
and

932
00:35:55,270 --> 00:35:52,240
a 42

933
00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:55,280
600 zip codes in the united states 18

934
00:35:59,910 --> 00:35:56,640
800 had

935
00:36:02,630 --> 00:35:59,920
had ufo setting reports we're also able

936
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:02,640
to take all those ufo silhouette shapes

937
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:04,960
we'll say like triangles or spheres and

938
00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:06,320
plot them

939
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:08,000
by zip codes

940
00:36:11,190 --> 00:36:09,920
and the patterns are very different from

941
00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:11,200
different shapes

942
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:13,119
oh that's very interesting so

943
00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:15,839
are you able to see sort of like uh

944
00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:17,520
you know if there's a sighting in one

945
00:36:21,430 --> 00:36:19,359
state and then there's a sighting next

946
00:36:23,910 --> 00:36:21,440
next door that it may have been the same

947
00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:23,920
you know statement okay we can't try we

948
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:26,240
can't track it we can't track it by time

949
00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:28,480
presently presently we cannot track it

950
00:36:31,510 --> 00:36:29,680
by time

951
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:31,520
but we're working on that

952
00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:33,200
uh we had an interesting comment from

953
00:36:36,069 --> 00:36:34,320
don d

954
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:36,079
sure people are asking where would you

955
00:36:40,630 --> 00:36:38,400
report a ufo sighting and and somebody

956
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:40,640
said mufon charges you twenty dollars to

957
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:42,880
report a ufo that's interesting no no no

958
00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:45,119
no no no that no they don't

959
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:46,960
no i don't know no it wouldn't surprise

960
00:36:50,870 --> 00:36:49,280
me if they did though no i don't i that

961
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:50,880
doesn't sound right that doesn't sound

962
00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:52,560
right hey you want to do it for free go

963
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:55,920
to national ufo reporting center okay

964
00:37:00,230 --> 00:36:58,000
that's where we're at national ufo

965
00:37:02,470 --> 00:37:00,240
reporting center dot org it's public

966
00:37:04,630 --> 00:37:02,480
they put the public stuff up uh

967
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:04,640
your your sighting that you put up

968
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:06,960
tonight you probably won't see it until

969
00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:08,880
two weeks into the next month because

970
00:37:13,030 --> 00:37:10,960
it's about two weeks before they they uh

971
00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:13,040
they run it through a

972
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:15,760
a process and then they post it okay but

973
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:19,440
uh it's public data um that's how i get

974
00:37:25,430 --> 00:37:22,480
it it's public data and uh so uh

975
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:25,440
national ufo reporting center new fork

976
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:31,510
dot org and they're free

977
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:34,560
and you can be as anonymous if you want

978
00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:35,520
um

979
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:37,520
please don't put fake stuff in there

980
00:37:41,990 --> 00:37:39,680
they've got enough to deal with

981
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:42,000
you know these friends yeah the thing is

982
00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:44,000
there's there's about

983
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:45,680
about 29

984
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:49,359
reporting sightings per day 25 to 29 per

985
00:37:52,870 --> 00:37:51,119
day nationally

986
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:52,880
okay so they're getting that they're

987
00:37:59,990 --> 00:37:56,000
getting at least 25 to 30 a day

988
00:38:01,829 --> 00:38:00,000
uh day in day out okay and uh states

989
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:01,839
like california they're getting they're

990
00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:04,000
doing like 12 a day unless there's

991
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:05,680
something really special and then jumps

992
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:07,680
up and like that and that's one of those

993
00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:09,920
twins things now people you were asking

994
00:38:13,910 --> 00:38:11,839
me about hot spots

995
00:38:15,910 --> 00:38:13,920
yeah i'm very interested in seeing if

996
00:38:18,950 --> 00:38:15,920
you can help me locate hot spots near my

997
00:38:20,310 --> 00:38:18,960
home state because guess what i just got

998
00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:20,320
right

999
00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:22,480
i just got a good enough telescope that

1000
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:25,200
i can do film and video through

1001
00:38:29,750 --> 00:38:27,359
that's decent enough quality and i want

1002
00:38:31,829 --> 00:38:29,760
to find some hot spots in my

1003
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:31,839
local area do you think they're going to

1004
00:38:35,190 --> 00:38:33,440
hold still long enough for you to get

1005
00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:35,200
them out of your house i'm hoping i'm

1006
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:37,839
hoping miss costa i'm going to try no no

1007
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:40,560
no no no the thing is they seem to have

1008
00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:42,960
a.i with telepathic capability and they

1009
00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:45,280
know the minute you look at them

1010
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:47,040
they they realize you're looking at them

1011
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:49,200
and they take off you know or they wink

1012
00:38:53,589 --> 00:38:51,520
out or whatever yes kind of like you

1013
00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:53,599
know i've heard this argument from alien

1014
00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:55,280
abductee people because

1015
00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:57,200
anytime i hear that somebody's abducted

1016
00:39:01,190 --> 00:38:59,520
by aliens my thing and especially when

1017
00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:01,200
somebody says it happens every night or

1018
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,560
it happens once a week my thing is

1019
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:04,320
always set up cameras but you know then

1020
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:05,920
they say well they don't show up if you

1021
00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:07,920
set up the cameras so who knows

1022
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:09,760
maybe they uh maybe they are aware of

1023
00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:12,079
when they're being observed dr velay

1024
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:13,760
said that that is sometimes a problem

1025
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:15,040
they'd go out there and set up all their

1026
00:39:19,030 --> 00:39:17,040
equipment and they wouldn't show up

1027
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:19,040
start packing this away and they show up

1028
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:21,040
you know

1029
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:26,000
out of mind's mentioning hot spots no

1030
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:28,000
not no no no not hot spots above

1031
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:31,119
military bases that's a fallacy

1032
00:39:33,589 --> 00:39:32,560
okay yes and no

1033
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:33,599
see

1034
00:39:38,069 --> 00:39:35,920
back in the 70s a lady

1035
00:39:40,390 --> 00:39:38,079
did use the national ufo reporting

1036
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:40,400
center data and she found a correlation

1037
00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:41,520
to

1038
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:43,760
the major military bases

1039
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:46,400
after the cold war a lot of bases were

1040
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:49,200
downgraded to reserve bases and national

1041
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:51,440
guard bases that type of thing and only

1042
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:54,560
a handful became

1043
00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:56,800
stayed active duty bases

1044
00:40:02,069 --> 00:39:59,440
now i interviewed as a journalist lou

1045
00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:02,079
alexander two or three times

1046
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,680
uh he was a guy who ran the a-tip

1047
00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:05,520
program at the pentagon sure we're well

1048
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:09,359
aware yeah and uh i asked him about this

1049
00:40:16,150 --> 00:40:10,640
and

1050
00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:16,160
to be haunting our nuclear technology

1051
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:18,400
they loiter around our bases where the

1052
00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:20,800
advanced nuclear technology is they

1053
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:22,319
loiter around the fleet where the

1054
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:25,599
advanced nuclear technology is okay and

1055
00:40:28,950 --> 00:40:28,079
that seems to be the case

1056
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:28,960
these

1057
00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:31,760
nuclear craft like nuclear aircraft

1058
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:34,319
carriers are seen yeah there's that

1059
00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:35,920
pluses the nuclear weapons that are

1060
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:37,839
being carried on that thing is reserved

1061
00:40:42,470 --> 00:40:40,160
weapons remember nuclear weapons are not

1062
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:42,480
primary weapons usually explosives

1063
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:44,800
nuclear weapons are considered a reserve

1064
00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:45,760
weapon

1065
00:40:51,990 --> 00:40:49,839
while i was in the military that's what

1066
00:40:54,550 --> 00:40:52,000
we called them okay

1067
00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:54,560
the deal is is that uh while they do

1068
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:56,480
loiter around some of our bases and

1069
00:41:00,870 --> 00:40:58,960
everything like this oh by the way and

1070
00:41:03,109 --> 00:41:00,880
no they don't loiter around the nuclear

1071
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:03,119
power 55 nuclear power plants we got in

1072
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:04,800
the country i had the street address and

1073
00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:06,720
the county for every one of them we ran

1074
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:09,119
them against the database no no no they

1075
00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:10,880
don't hang out there they're actually

1076
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:13,280
more interested in our polluted lakes

1077
00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:16,400
polluted rivers dead cold mines our

1078
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:18,800
our waste areas our brown fields they're

1079
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:20,560
much more interested in that and are

1080
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,640
also our unstable fault lines they're

1081
00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:24,960
really really interested in that and yes

1082
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:27,520
they hang around big cities

1083
00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:30,319
but the majority of the sightings even

1084
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:31,839
though there's a lot around big cities

1085
00:41:36,309 --> 00:41:33,280
because there's lots of people to see

1086
00:41:39,349 --> 00:41:36,319
them if you go out with the zip codes

1087
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:39,359
because the zip code will take in maybe

1088
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:41,839
a few villages and towns outside of the

1089
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:44,319
city but also take in a whole bunch of

1090
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:46,480
those unincorporated communities that

1091
00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:48,720
are out there smaller towns and that's

1092
00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:50,240
where you start seeing that whole

1093
00:41:55,349 --> 00:41:52,560
leisure time thing kick in is most

1094
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:55,359
people most sightings occur between 5 30

1095
00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:57,680
at night and 11 30 at night with the

1096
00:42:01,510 --> 00:41:59,760
peak of it happening between 8 30 at

1097
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:01,520
night and 10 30.

1098
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:05,119
75 of the sightings happen between 5 30

1099
00:42:09,430 --> 00:42:07,040
at night to 7 30 at night or i'm sorry

1100
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:09,440
11 30 at night the other

1101
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:11,760
17 hours of the day

1102
00:42:16,950 --> 00:42:15,520
represent about 25 of the sightings

1103
00:42:18,150 --> 00:42:16,960
who knew

1104
00:42:20,630 --> 00:42:18,160
yeah so

1105
00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:20,640
so do you think it is

1106
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:22,480
there is something to the nuclear thing

1107
00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:24,240
but they're more interested in military

1108
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:25,520
craft because you said they're not

1109
00:42:33,510 --> 00:42:27,520
interested in the power

1110
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:34,309
there

1111
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:36,960
okay that's the deal the data doesn't as

1112
00:42:40,230 --> 00:42:38,640
they used to say in the csi program

1113
00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:40,240
follow the evidence

1114
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:42,839
the data doesn't point to this

1115
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:44,800
okay interesting because i had heard

1116
00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:46,960
from you know you just hear things and

1117
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:48,720
i'm sure that i'd heard that there was

1118
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:50,160
sightings or a lot of sightings near

1119
00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:52,000
nuclear power plants i hear that all the

1120
00:42:56,069 --> 00:42:53,839
time too but the numbers don't back it

1121
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:56,079
up yeah this is a common belief that

1122
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:57,839
that somehow they're attracted to

1123
00:43:01,589 --> 00:42:59,040
nuclear

1124
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:01,599
sources or energy okay now we can go

1125
00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:03,599
there for a minute think about this we

1126
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:04,960
used to have so we've had sightings

1127
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:07,280
around since before biblical times

1128
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:08,240
okay

1129
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:10,480
roman soldiers used to log these things

1130
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:12,400
into their watch reports you know

1131
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:14,880
they've been around this a long time but

1132
00:43:20,790 --> 00:43:17,359
we when we detonated three nukes back in

1133
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:20,800
1945 suddenly in 1947 we're up to our

1134
00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:23,520
but in in ufos

1135
00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:25,760
okay and basically the i think the

1136
00:43:31,190 --> 00:43:28,480
attitude was oh my gosh the

1137
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:31,200
natives have a box of matches yeah i

1138
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:32,800
talked to i i interviewed stanton

1139
00:43:37,349 --> 00:43:34,480
freeman before and he was fond of that

1140
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:37,359
saying like oh the kids

1141
00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:38,960
i love that man i really yeah the kids

1142
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:40,720
got the matches and maybe this is

1143
00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:42,960
something that we should be looking at

1144
00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:46,000
because the kids got the matches now

1145
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:47,119
and certainly

1146
00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:48,880
as any civilization that develops

1147
00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:51,599
nuclear technology could also develop

1148
00:43:55,829 --> 00:43:53,920
space faring technology this is again

1149
00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:55,839
from stan friedman you know nuclear

1150
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:58,400
rockets could get you to the near nearby

1151
00:44:01,829 --> 00:43:59,760
star systems

1152
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:01,839
that are not your own so certainly that

1153
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:04,000
should be a cause for concern if we can

1154
00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:06,000
create nuclear bombs we can also create

1155
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:08,640
nuclear rockets to to

1156
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:10,880
go and visit nearby star systems so

1157
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:12,640
maybe we at that point we became a

1158
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:14,720
threat to them or a possible threat

1159
00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:18,720
worthy of monitoring right yeah uh

1160
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:20,720
the guy named

1161
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:24,400
robert haster did the books about um

1162
00:44:29,589 --> 00:44:26,720
ufos and nukes and nukes i have those

1163
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:29,599
yeah and and i saw a live presentation

1164
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:32,319
by him in 2017 at a mufon conference and

1165
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:35,760
if i ever had any doubts left in my mind

1166
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:38,000
this was the smoking gun for me because

1167
00:44:41,109 --> 00:44:39,520
he was using

1168
00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:41,119
um

1169
00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:43,520
real government reports mentioning these

1170
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:45,760
missile silos getting shot

1171
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:47,920
shut down and then we started seeing

1172
00:44:52,790 --> 00:44:50,800
video from some of these guys testifying

1173
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:52,800
testifying so to speak at the national

1174
00:44:55,910 --> 00:44:55,040
press club about this former mistleman

1175
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:55,920
okay

1176
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:56,880
and

1177
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:57,680
so

1178
00:45:01,349 --> 00:44:59,520
yeah i think they saved us from

1179
00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:01,359
annihilating theirs annihilating

1180
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:03,040
ourselves a couple of times back in the

1181
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:06,560
80s because we were real close i mean i

1182
00:45:10,230 --> 00:45:08,640
i was really sweating that reagan was

1183
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:10,240
going to push the button one these days

1184
00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:12,480
you know and

1185
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:15,040
yeah i remember i remember that that at

1186
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:17,520
that time and being like you know like

1187
00:45:22,950 --> 00:45:19,920
wow we could all just die tomorrow if

1188
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:22,960
these two countries don't you know work

1189
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:25,760
out their differences right yeah

1190
00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:28,400
um so the big deal with the nukes they

1191
00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:30,079
seem to be very interested in because we

1192
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:32,160
could quite literally destroy the planet

1193
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:34,240
now i've had a lot of

1194
00:45:37,190 --> 00:45:36,319
senior talk show hosts come to me and

1195
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:37,200
say

1196
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:39,040
why are we getting all of this stuff

1197
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:41,440
around the bases around the ships right

1198
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:44,079
now all that stuff you know they're

1199
00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:46,400
letting themselves be seen we know they

1200
00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:48,560
can stealth it out you know why are they

1201
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:50,400
certainly allowing us to see them on

1202
00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:52,240
infrared and on radar and things like

1203
00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:55,200
this flying past our f-18s you know

1204
00:45:58,950 --> 00:45:56,000
playing

1205
00:46:00,550 --> 00:45:58,960
um

1206
00:46:03,829 --> 00:46:00,560
i think it's one or two things either

1207
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:03,839
e.t is trying to push the situation so

1208
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:05,520
the government has to tell the rest of

1209
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:08,240
the the civilization that these guys are

1210
00:46:10,470 --> 00:46:09,599
around

1211
00:46:12,230 --> 00:46:10,480
or

1212
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:12,240
we're so close to our

1213
00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:14,480
ecological tipping point but judging

1214
00:46:19,349 --> 00:46:16,079
from the kind of weather we've had this

1215
00:46:21,790 --> 00:46:19,359
year i would say you think you know uh

1216
00:46:23,510 --> 00:46:21,800
we're so close to our tipping point

1217
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:23,520
ecologically

1218
00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:24,400
that

1219
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:27,119
they they may be taking the ad if you

1220
00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:28,720
guys won't fix it we're going to come

1221
00:46:32,630 --> 00:46:31,040
there and help you and make you fix it

1222
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:32,640
you know these planets like this are

1223
00:46:37,109 --> 00:46:35,119
rare even though life is teeming teaming

1224
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:37,119
throughout the universe these kinds of

1225
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:39,359
inhabitants are rare yeah but planets

1226
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:41,200
that can support

1227
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:42,800
you know i've heard people theorize that

1228
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,400
one of the reasons they they have an

1229
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:46,319
interest in earth is because planets

1230
00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:47,680
that can support

1231
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:50,400
very complicated life forms like ours

1232
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:52,640
are rare they're they're out there but

1233
00:46:57,270 --> 00:46:54,960
they're they're rare and and with as

1234
00:46:58,470 --> 00:46:57,280
with any rare resource you don't want to

1235
00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:58,480
waste

1236
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:01,359
that rare resource you want to use it to

1237
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:03,760
you know the benefit of all right

1238
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:04,560
yeah

1239
00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:07,200
exactly so of all this data that you're

1240
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:09,760
gathering you you probably have a pretty

1241
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,480
good

1242
00:47:14,950 --> 00:47:12,400
take on

1243
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:14,960
is this is is the sightings going to

1244
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:17,200
ramp up and continue to ramp up are we

1245
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:20,880
going to see more ufos in the future

1246
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:22,480
i think i think we're going to continue

1247
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:25,599
well if it stays in our normal cycle

1248
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:27,440
uh we're going to ramp up for the next

1249
00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:28,800
four or five years and it's going to

1250
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:30,880
start ramping down again

1251
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:33,040
okay now peop again you're asking me

1252
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:35,359
about hot spots people say cheryl

1253
00:47:40,150 --> 00:47:38,319
where's the hot spots i'll say do you

1254
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:40,160
have a particular state in mind do you

1255
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:41,680
have a particular

1256
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:43,839
time of year in mind do you know that

1257
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:45,520
somebody we just discovered that some of

1258
00:47:50,069 --> 00:47:47,680
the ufos or actually most of the ufo

1259
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:50,079
silhouette shapes silhouettes have

1260
00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:51,200
seasons

1261
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:52,960
we only found that out

1262
00:47:56,549 --> 00:47:54,880
with building this book in fact we're

1263
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:56,559
gonna do a separate book just on that

1264
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:59,440
stuff uh wait wait so people see

1265
00:48:03,750 --> 00:48:01,440
triangles during certain season people

1266
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:03,760
see saucers during other seasons yeah

1267
00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:06,079
you see them all here but they they're

1268
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:08,000
peaking up in certain seasons some are

1269
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:10,240
only here and really really here in

1270
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:11,680
volume in the winter time some of them

1271
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:13,440
are here only in the spring most of the

1272
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:15,280
year in the summer time this is the

1273
00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:18,240
benefit of good data analysis because

1274
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:20,880
i've never heard that and i'm sure given

1275
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:23,200
the book and and how much data it's

1276
00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:25,680
packed with you can do a chart right and

1277
00:48:29,510 --> 00:48:27,599
see yeah oh i i did one the other day

1278
00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:29,520
i'll send it to you i'll email it to you

1279
00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:31,359
after after the show yeah

1280
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:33,440
no you want to hear what our next thing

1281
00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:35,119
is going to be you're going to love this

1282
00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:41,910
since we fixed all that city data and

1283
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:43,760
location data it's two things it's

1284
00:48:49,030 --> 00:48:46,559
municipalities and locations joe's

1285
00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:49,040
campground uh uh

1286
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:51,040
lovers leap on such and such a mountain

1287
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:52,400
you know there's locations that are

1288
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:54,079
non-governmental

1289
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:55,200
um

1290
00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:57,839
we fixed all that but if we printed out

1291
00:49:01,829 --> 00:49:00,319
all the cities with sightings

1292
00:49:02,950 --> 00:49:01,839
all the minnesota all that location

1293
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:02,960
stuff

1294
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:05,440
with the citing information not not the

1295
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:07,440
write-ups about the setting when joe and

1296
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:09,200
bob were out looking no just this

1297
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:12,240
deciding information with the dates

1298
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:13,200
okay

1299
00:49:17,109 --> 00:49:14,480
it would be

1300
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:17,119
about a foot and a half thick we figured

1301
00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:19,440
be about 60 centimeters

1302
00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:21,440
okay two two or three oxford

1303
00:49:25,349 --> 00:49:22,960
dictionaries

1304
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:25,359
so what we're gonna do is uh we've come

1305
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:27,520
up with a rapid production process by

1306
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:29,680
building these reports and tables are

1307
00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:32,400
the time-consuming part building them

1308
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:34,079
into pdfs and then you put them into

1309
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:35,359
something like adobe acrobat and you

1310
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:37,040
just stack them up like blocks and you

1311
00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:41,670
that's why i was able to build this

1312
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:43,119
other book when he actually put it

1313
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:44,800
together

1314
00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:46,640
linda took a week of vacation also we

1315
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:48,400
had a a weekend on either side of the

1316
00:49:52,630 --> 00:49:50,800
vacation and that week in the middle i

1317
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:52,640
showed her all the pronouns we'd already

1318
00:49:55,270 --> 00:49:53,839
done

1319
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:55,280
we laid them out on the floor we laid

1320
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,480
them out on the bed we put them in the

1321
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:58,160
dining room table and then and she

1322
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:59,440
started saying okay these are going

1323
00:50:02,470 --> 00:50:00,720
first these are going second you know

1324
00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:02,480
that type of thing she played editor and

1325
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,640
publisher and organized the book the way

1326
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:07,200
she wanted to see it presented so we put

1327
00:50:10,470 --> 00:50:08,720
all that stuff together

1328
00:50:12,309 --> 00:50:10,480
i just started pulling in pdfs i

1329
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:12,319
assembled the book in less than two

1330
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:14,559
hours from all the pdfs i've been

1331
00:50:17,589 --> 00:50:15,839
building all your guys have been

1332
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,599
building the building blocks right and

1333
00:50:20,710 --> 00:50:19,520
then you can stack them up there's some

1334
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:20,720
days you're sitting there working out

1335
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:22,319
and saying oh god i can't do numbers

1336
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:23,680
today let me work on the graphics

1337
00:50:27,270 --> 00:50:25,440
instead especially this book what is it

1338
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:27,280
it's huge book how many pages is in this

1339
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:31,839
book 430 430 yes 2.7 pounds already

1340
00:50:35,190 --> 00:50:33,920
credited with a concussion we want to

1341
00:50:37,270 --> 00:50:35,200
stop uh

1342
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:37,280
stop and recognize m fisher with a kind

1343
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:40,079
and generous uh seven pound donation uh

1344
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:41,920
she really has the complete database in

1345
00:50:46,309 --> 00:50:44,240
her memory doesn't she and amazing great

1346
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:46,319
job steven yeah thank you very much for

1347
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:47,839
your kindness your generosity and your

1348
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:50,800
support it really does help us to uh

1349
00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:52,400
we're a viewer supported show so there's

1350
00:50:58,610 --> 00:50:54,480
a money button down there thank you

1351
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:05,990
[Music]

1352
00:51:10,069 --> 00:51:08,000
and we had a great question that i don't

1353
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:10,079
want to miss

1354
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:12,000
moody mongol asked this

1355
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:13,280
um

1356
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:18,960
in gas form to boost the bomb's effect

1357
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:21,359
degrades every 15 or 20 years and needs

1358
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:23,760
to be replaced in all missiles

1359
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:26,319
are you do you know cheryl do ufo lights

1360
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:27,680
correspond

1361
00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:30,160
to these refitting times

1362
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:32,000
they may i have i don't know what the

1363
00:51:35,349 --> 00:51:34,079
schedules are for that refitting that's

1364
00:51:37,829 --> 00:51:35,359
something that we can i can't

1365
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:37,839
quarterback you maybe yeah yeah

1366
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:39,520
that it would be interesting to see if

1367
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:42,559
they are sort of uh you know

1368
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:44,160
more sightings when they're doing the

1369
00:51:48,309 --> 00:51:46,160
refit

1370
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:48,319
yeah that's possible that's possible

1371
00:51:51,670 --> 00:51:50,240
okay here's the deal with what we're

1372
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:51,680
going to do

1373
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:53,520
we couldn't do it all in one book so

1374
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:55,520
we're going to publish 50 individual

1375
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:57,359
state books

1376
00:52:00,150 --> 00:51:59,200
right down to the municipal or local

1377
00:52:01,910 --> 00:52:00,160
level

1378
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:01,920
with their site with their citing great

1379
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:03,119
because then people could get the book

1380
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:04,480
for their state that they want the

1381
00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:06,400
information yeah imagine what it would

1382
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:08,000
look like a line if you got onto one

1383
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:11,119
page it would go 2001 to 2020 across the

1384
00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:14,880
top and then if you saw your county

1385
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:17,760
and then maybe your city all the shapes

1386
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:19,680
that were seen in that 20-year window

1387
00:52:23,670 --> 00:52:21,200
would be lined right up there with how

1388
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:23,680
many numbers how many of them were seen

1389
00:52:29,829 --> 00:52:26,640
for every one of those years okay

1390
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:29,839
and um so we're going to build 50

1391
00:52:33,109 --> 00:52:31,680
individual state books

1392
00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:33,119
then we're going to build

1393
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:37,040
29 individual shapes only books

1394
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:39,280
one book for every single shape because

1395
00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:40,800
these books are all going to be between

1396
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:43,760
250 and 380 pages

1397
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:47,119
because we've got to

1398
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:48,960
yeah we couldn't it's going to be a st

1399
00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:50,720
it's going to be it'd be a stack as tall

1400
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:53,040
as i am so basically what we'll end up

1401
00:52:58,309 --> 00:52:55,599
with is about 80 or 90 books on this

1402
00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:58,319
selfie it will be the largest computer

1403
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:00,960
compilation uh i'm sorry be the largest

1404
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:04,160
collection of compiled ufo data ever

1405
00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:06,480
published in human history sampling a

1406
00:53:11,349 --> 00:53:08,559
20-year period and that's when linda and

1407
00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:11,359
i are going to retire

1408
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:13,920
wow well yeah what a work to retire with

1409
00:53:17,270 --> 00:53:15,200
though and then you leave behind this

1410
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:17,280
legacy of all of this

1411
00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:19,440
like i said i'm such a data

1412
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:21,520
person and there seems to be such a lack

1413
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:24,400
of it in this field that i wanted to i

1414
00:53:27,910 --> 00:53:26,240
sure wanted to have you on and pick your

1415
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:27,920
brain about all this stuff can we talk

1416
00:53:32,230 --> 00:53:30,000
to lake erie there's a question there

1417
00:53:34,150 --> 00:53:32,240
about lake erie yeah yeah okay he's

1418
00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:34,160
talking about the lake erie sightings

1419
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:36,880
okay it's the lake erie effect okay the

1420
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:40,240
light gary and the uh the the

1421
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:42,880
niagara frontier okay remember i talked

1422
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:46,960
about water being a driver a long uh 30

1423
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:48,720
of the sightings in new york state

1424
00:53:53,670 --> 00:53:51,040
follow along the saint lawrence seaway

1425
00:53:56,549 --> 00:53:53,680
up up up above ogdensburg

1426
00:53:59,030 --> 00:53:56,559
down down across through lake ontario

1427
00:54:01,670 --> 00:53:59,040
uh down through the buffalo area into in

1428
00:54:05,109 --> 00:54:01,680
the middle of lake erie okay now for

1429
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:05,119
years people said that uh next to

1430
00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:07,359
the hudson valley lake erie was the

1431
00:54:13,750 --> 00:54:11,119
other big major ground zero for ufos

1432
00:54:16,150 --> 00:54:13,760
and that was very true based on the data

1433
00:54:16,910 --> 00:54:16,160
that people understood that time

1434
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:16,920
in

1435
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:28,000
monroe county which is essentially the

1436
00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:30,960
rochester area on lake ontario and then

1437
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:34,000
he had almost as many sightings as the

1438
00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:36,000
lake erie area did

1439
00:54:39,030 --> 00:54:36,839
and

1440
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:39,040
people the old old-timers were looking

1441
00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:40,240
and says wow we didn't know there was a

1442
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,799
lake ontario effect holy god you know

1443
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:44,480
and and the other thing was we found out

1444
00:54:48,390 --> 00:54:46,559
something else from the canadian side

1445
00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:48,400
there have been there have been folk

1446
00:54:53,430 --> 00:54:50,960
stories since the colonial era that said

1447
00:54:56,150 --> 00:54:53,440
that there's a civilization that lives

1448
00:54:57,990 --> 00:54:56,160
under lake ontario

1449
00:54:59,829 --> 00:54:58,000
okay that's pretty interesting

1450
00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:59,839
okay so bottom line in new york state

1451
00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:01,920
people said well then what's the hot

1452
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:04,480
spot is it lake erie or is it the the

1453
00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:06,640
hudson valley and i said no it's suffolk

1454
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:08,400
county long island

1455
00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:13,349
uh i'm not a big believer in montauk

1456
00:55:16,630 --> 00:55:14,640
though i don't know i've been there and

1457
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:16,640
i thought there's nothing here okay but

1458
00:55:19,349 --> 00:55:18,400
there is water on both sides you get the

1459
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:19,359
sound

1460
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:20,960
the atlantic ocean

1461
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:22,960
that's a major driver and also people

1462
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:25,119
are asking which which

1463
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:27,040
you're you keep referring to linda and i

1464
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:28,160
believe you're referring to your

1465
00:55:33,349 --> 00:55:31,280
co-author linda miller she is my wife

1466
00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:33,359
yeah okay two lady household here you

1467
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:35,440
know

1468
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:37,680
interesting okay yeah she's got a wife

1469
00:55:41,349 --> 00:55:39,280
and i've got a wife it works out great

1470
00:55:42,630 --> 00:55:41,359
you know reemsy here with a five dollar

1471
00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:42,640
super sticker thank you for your

1472
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:44,240
kindness your generosity and your

1473
00:55:49,349 --> 00:55:46,880
support and lord ludacris plaid

1474
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:49,359
uh with the question are nuclear waste

1475
00:55:53,829 --> 00:55:51,520
sites one of the most visited how does

1476
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:53,839
waste compare to active missiles and

1477
00:55:58,950 --> 00:55:56,079
power plants on visits

1478
00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:58,960
versus people pollution okay

1479
00:56:04,150 --> 00:56:00,640
i went to nuclear power school when i

1480
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:04,160
was in the navy and the the

1481
00:56:09,510 --> 00:56:06,720
amount of time it takes for that

1482
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:09,520
hot very those very hot radioactively

1483
00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:11,440
hot rods

1484
00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:13,200
to

1485
00:56:18,870 --> 00:56:14,960
degrade

1486
00:56:20,150 --> 00:56:18,880
and by half-life it's like 25 000 years

1487
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:20,160
so we're going to be living with this

1488
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:22,480
waste for a long time

1489
00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:24,880
uh yeah they're they're interested in

1490
00:56:27,270 --> 00:56:26,240
that as well

1491
00:56:28,789 --> 00:56:27,280
um

1492
00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:28,799
very interesting let me thank everybody

1493
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:30,160
for the super chats we're a viewer

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00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:32,960
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1496
00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:35,680
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1497
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:37,200
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1498
00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:39,599
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1499
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1501
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:54,870
[Music]

1502
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:56,720
you got some generous listeners i used

1503
00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:58,640
to have a talk radio program and nobody

1504
00:57:01,990 --> 00:56:59,920
would give it

1505
00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:02,000
yeah it's great and you know what i

1506
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:04,400
always say i always say it's this or

1507
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:06,160
taco bell right

1508
00:57:11,109 --> 00:57:08,240
that's that's what i'm that's those are

1509
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:11,119
my choices so i'd much prefer to do this

1510
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,720
i think that we're doing some important

1511
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:14,720
work here and i'd like you know i

1512
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:16,960
haven't seen you uh

1513
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:18,559
on any other show

1514
00:57:22,789 --> 00:57:20,880
you know maybe i just am not watching

1515
00:57:25,990 --> 00:57:22,799
enough ufos i've done a bunch of them

1516
00:57:27,910 --> 00:57:26,000
since since the second week yeah the

1517
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:27,920
mailing that you saw but yeah i think

1518
00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:29,440
it's so important that we get people

1519
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:30,559
like you

1520
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:34,720
storytellers that don't have any

1521
00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:36,880
evidence or you know this is a complete

1522
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:40,240
180 to to what a lot of what's out there

1523
00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:41,520
because

1524
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:44,160
you know i i truly believe that having

1525
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:46,880
access to all of this data gives you a

1526
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:48,880
great deal of insight into things that

1527
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:51,119
nobody's talking about this kind of

1528
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:53,680
stuff and why not right let me give you

1529
00:57:58,150 --> 00:57:56,400
a thought here okay now

1530
00:58:00,069 --> 00:57:58,160
as we were getting done with the book

1531
00:58:02,549 --> 00:58:00,079
numerous people in my life the guy over

1532
00:58:05,109 --> 00:58:02,559
at staples you know different people who

1533
00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:05,119
i interacted a lot with this stuff

1534
00:58:08,630 --> 00:58:06,240
um

1535
00:58:10,230 --> 00:58:08,640
they would say to me well when you were

1536
00:58:12,309 --> 00:58:10,240
working on the book you did take out all

1537
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:12,319
the this is a quote i got this almost

1538
00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:14,960
regularly you did take out the nuts

1539
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:17,680
cooks nuts and crackpots right

1540
00:58:20,549 --> 00:58:18,400
and

1541
00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:20,559
it's like that line from the movie

1542
00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:22,880
amadeus when the emperor comes into

1543
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:25,119
mozart and says you got a beautiful

1544
00:58:28,870 --> 00:58:27,119
symphony there just take out a few notes

1545
00:58:29,750 --> 00:58:28,880
and it'll be perfect you know that kind

1546
00:58:30,549 --> 00:58:29,760
of thing

1547
00:58:32,789 --> 00:58:30,559
and

1548
00:58:35,990 --> 00:58:32,799
the deal is is

1549
00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:36,000
uh what ones do i take out you know i

1550
00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:38,000
don't take them out i kept them all

1551
00:58:44,069 --> 00:58:41,280
statistically we can write some off

1552
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:44,079
okay so let me show you how i do this as

1553
00:58:51,390 --> 00:58:46,240
a chalk talk when i do presentations

1554
00:58:54,950 --> 00:58:51,400
you'll love this okay we got 167

1555
00:58:59,030 --> 00:58:54,960
632 sightings over the past 20 years

1556
00:59:01,670 --> 00:58:59,040
i say dr villa says 80 noise mufon says

1557
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:01,680
70 noise linda and i we came back we

1558
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:02,960
came back with a number for two

1559
00:59:07,030 --> 00:59:05,440
different criterias that we we used and

1560
00:59:08,549 --> 00:59:07,040
came back with sixty percent sixty eight

1561
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:08,559
percent seventy percent something we did

1562
00:59:13,030 --> 00:59:10,319
so let's go with seventy percent is

1563
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:13,040
noise so we take thirty percent right

1564
00:59:16,829 --> 00:59:15,839
off the top and say okay thirty percent

1565
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:16,839
is what we

1566
00:59:21,030 --> 00:59:19,440
want thirty percent of that hundred and

1567
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:21,040
sixty seven thousand six hundred and

1568
00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:24,240
thirty two is about fifty thousand

1569
00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:26,720
divide that by twenty years it gives you

1570
00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:28,960
about twenty five hundred per year

1571
00:59:32,950 --> 00:59:30,240
average

1572
00:59:35,829 --> 00:59:32,960
divide that twenty 2 500 year 2 500 a

1573
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:35,839
year by 12 months

1574
00:59:41,030 --> 00:59:37,760
that gives us

1575
00:59:42,390 --> 00:59:41,040
a number of 208 210 something like that

1576
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:42,400
depending on how you're around the

1577
00:59:47,109 --> 00:59:44,079
decimal point okay

1578
00:59:48,190 --> 00:59:47,119
now what does that 210 mean

1579
00:59:51,589 --> 00:59:48,200
that's

1580
00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:51,599
210 if you're saying this 30 of the

1581
00:59:55,190 --> 00:59:53,440
genuine deal

1582
00:59:58,549 --> 00:59:55,200
at 210

1583
01:00:00,390 --> 00:59:58,559
a month for 240 months of the last 20

1584
01:00:01,829 --> 01:00:00,400
years

1585
01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:01,839
are genuine

1586
01:00:07,670 --> 01:00:04,960
and if if if all 50 states were equal

1587
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:07,680
they're not but if all 50 states were

1588
01:00:14,630 --> 01:00:10,480
equal if you take that 210 and divide it

1589
01:00:16,789 --> 01:00:14,640
by 50 you come up with four okay

1590
01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:16,799
what does four mean it means that if all

1591
01:00:21,190 --> 01:00:20,079
states were equal in the last 20 years

1592
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:21,200
then

1593
01:00:26,950 --> 01:00:23,920
every state in the union had four

1594
01:00:28,470 --> 01:00:26,960
genuine e.t events

1595
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:28,480
a month

1596
01:00:33,430 --> 01:00:31,200
for the past 20 years

1597
01:00:36,309 --> 01:00:33,440
that's still a significant number when

1598
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:36,319
you throw 70 out the window

1599
01:00:41,270 --> 01:00:38,880
yeah and like you said you can throw a

1600
01:00:43,510 --> 01:00:41,280
small portion out as maybe not credible

1601
01:00:45,270 --> 01:00:43,520
sightings we write off about

1602
01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:45,280
we would normally say about five to

1603
01:00:49,109 --> 01:00:47,440
seven percent

1604
01:00:51,670 --> 01:00:49,119
statistically

1605
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:51,680
wow yeah it's interesting and and is

1606
01:00:56,789 --> 01:00:54,160
that because they're misidentifications

1607
01:00:57,430 --> 01:00:56,799
or not credible witnesses or

1608
01:00:59,109 --> 01:00:57,440
no

1609
01:01:01,030 --> 01:00:59,119
is there any criteria you use to write

1610
01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:01,040
those offer you just consider some of

1611
01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:02,960
the statistical data is going to just

1612
01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:04,720
just assume all of the above that you

1613
01:01:10,309 --> 01:01:07,440
just mentioned okay all the above okay

1614
01:01:11,910 --> 01:01:10,319
um i like to write off the um a three

1615
01:01:13,589 --> 01:01:11,920
and a half percent myself right off the

1616
01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:13,599
bat those are those the three and a half

1617
01:01:18,710 --> 01:01:16,240
percent are the people who did not fill

1618
01:01:20,549 --> 01:01:18,720
out the name of the city or the location

1619
01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:20,559
when they made the report

1620
01:01:24,789 --> 01:01:22,720
okay and we had to write in unspecified

1621
01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:24,799
and we had to for every single state we

1622
01:01:30,069 --> 01:01:28,079
had to assign it to an unknown county

1623
01:01:30,789 --> 01:01:30,079
well that's very interesting

1624
01:01:33,270 --> 01:01:30,799
so

1625
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:33,280
you know we've we've we've talked about

1626
01:01:37,910 --> 01:01:35,920
all of the this little known

1627
01:01:40,069 --> 01:01:37,920
is there any other patterns that you're

1628
01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:40,079
seeing in the data that people are not

1629
01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:41,920
maybe not aware of

1630
01:01:49,270 --> 01:01:46,309
uh

1631
01:01:51,510 --> 01:01:49,280
okay we've we've seen certain shapes

1632
01:01:54,270 --> 01:01:51,520
show up uh and then other shapes show up

1633
01:01:57,430 --> 01:01:54,280
with them in fact when back in

1634
01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:57,440
2014 to 17 when all the sightings were

1635
01:02:01,430 --> 01:01:58,960
going in the toilet

1636
01:02:03,510 --> 01:02:01,440
uh everybody said oh that's terrible

1637
01:02:05,349 --> 01:02:03,520
that's terrible and i had one researcher

1638
01:02:07,349 --> 01:02:05,359
look at me and say oh yeah it's terrible

1639
01:02:08,789 --> 01:02:07,359
i said what if i told you three shapes

1640
01:02:10,870 --> 01:02:08,799
are on the increase and it seems like

1641
01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:10,880
when these guys come to town

1642
01:02:15,029 --> 01:02:12,720
everybody else vacates and they said

1643
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:15,039
what shapes for them the saturn shape is

1644
01:02:18,710 --> 01:02:17,200
the mother ship the teardrop shape seems

1645
01:02:21,109 --> 01:02:18,720
to be as a

1646
01:02:23,910 --> 01:02:21,119
heavy duty shuttle and the egg shape

1647
01:02:25,990 --> 01:02:23,920
seems to be a scout ship and you see

1648
01:02:28,549 --> 01:02:26,000
them in frequencies that would be

1649
01:02:30,789 --> 01:02:28,559
appropriate for being auxiliary craft to

1650
01:02:32,870 --> 01:02:30,799
a mother ship and those motherships that

1651
01:02:35,349 --> 01:02:32,880
saturn shaped ship sort of looks acorn

1652
01:02:38,470 --> 01:02:35,359
shaped that's what the japan airlines

1653
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:38,480
guy encountered back in 1986 it's a half

1654
01:02:42,549 --> 01:02:40,240
a mile wide

1655
01:02:44,309 --> 01:02:42,559
wow you only see about 40 of them and

1656
01:02:46,309 --> 01:02:44,319
you know what the kecksberg crash was

1657
01:02:54,470 --> 01:02:46,319
supposed to be an acorn shaped craft as

1658
01:02:57,750 --> 01:02:55,670
you're right that's how i've heard it

1659
01:02:59,829 --> 01:02:57,760
described the size of a volkswagen bus

1660
01:03:01,910 --> 01:02:59,839
yeah yeah yeah kecksburg's also in

1661
01:03:03,670 --> 01:03:01,920
pennsylvania so i've been there and

1662
01:03:05,829 --> 01:03:03,680
there's not much to see it's a sleepy

1663
01:03:07,750 --> 01:03:05,839
little town and there's this monument

1664
01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:07,760
they built like a replica

1665
01:03:11,829 --> 01:03:09,359
you know then you can just search

1666
01:03:13,670 --> 01:03:11,839
kecksburg ufo and you can see what i'm

1667
01:03:16,069 --> 01:03:13,680
talking about now can i share one

1668
01:03:17,349 --> 01:03:16,079
thought about what's been like to be two

1669
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:17,359
gay women

1670
01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:19,760
coming out with the statistics we are we

1671
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:22,480
are big supporters here of the ufo gay

1672
01:03:27,510 --> 01:03:24,640
rights and trans rights here everybody

1673
01:03:30,150 --> 01:03:27,520
is welcome here the community tended to

1674
01:03:31,029 --> 01:03:30,160
be dominated the expression by white

1675
01:03:33,510 --> 01:03:31,039
guys

1676
01:03:37,109 --> 01:03:33,520
and the white robes

1677
01:03:39,990 --> 01:03:37,119
white old guys yes and the problem was

1678
01:03:41,910 --> 01:03:40,000
uh what we ran up against was um there

1679
01:03:44,630 --> 01:03:41,920
was this attitude well you didn't invent

1680
01:03:46,470 --> 01:03:44,640
all that in first book 121 000 right you

1681
01:03:48,470 --> 01:03:46,480
didn't you didn't vet all those i said

1682
01:03:50,390 --> 01:03:48,480
how are we going to vet that

1683
01:03:52,230 --> 01:03:50,400
statistically we can write off seven

1684
01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:52,240
percent you better call five a day

1685
01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:54,240
you'll be there for 60 years i don't

1686
01:03:57,589 --> 01:03:56,319
have a time machine to go back to 2001

1687
01:03:59,750 --> 01:03:57,599
you know

1688
01:04:01,589 --> 01:03:59,760
so there was that plus there's the other

1689
01:04:04,549 --> 01:04:01,599
there's the other attitude we get a lot

1690
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:04,559
on a number of shows they'll say well

1691
01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:07,200
you aren't field investigators and

1692
01:04:11,270 --> 01:04:09,200
like i told you before the show we're a

1693
01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:11,280
couple of old ladies we don't do cow

1694
01:04:15,510 --> 01:04:13,359
patties we don't do ticks we don't do

1695
01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:15,520
barbed wire and we don't do

1696
01:04:20,309 --> 01:04:18,079
um you know all of that stuff marching

1697
01:04:22,390 --> 01:04:20,319
around out in mrs murphy's barnyard

1698
01:04:24,950 --> 01:04:22,400
looking for ufo evidence

1699
01:04:28,069 --> 01:04:24,960
we we're doing like indiana jones we do

1700
01:04:31,029 --> 01:04:28,079
our expeditions in the library okay with

1701
01:04:33,190 --> 01:04:31,039
our computer terminals

1702
01:04:34,950 --> 01:04:33,200
interesting yeah and i don't blame you

1703
01:04:36,549 --> 01:04:34,960
because i've done some things where like

1704
01:04:38,309 --> 01:04:36,559
like when i went to kecksburg i wanted

1705
01:04:40,230 --> 01:04:38,319
to see the crash site

1706
01:04:42,150 --> 01:04:40,240
and i had to go crawling through the

1707
01:04:43,910 --> 01:04:42,160
woods like literally crawling through

1708
01:04:46,069 --> 01:04:43,920
the woods and it was you know not a

1709
01:04:47,990 --> 01:04:46,079
pleasant experience so i don't blame you

1710
01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:48,000
you want to what did you say earlier you

1711
01:04:51,750 --> 01:04:48,960
said that

1712
01:04:53,270 --> 01:04:51,760
it all starts in the library yeah right

1713
01:04:55,109 --> 01:04:53,280
yeah um

1714
01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:55,119
okay when i was doing my newspaper

1715
01:04:58,150 --> 01:04:56,160
column

1716
01:05:00,630 --> 01:04:58,160
i used to look up famous sightings in

1717
01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:00,640
some cases cases

1718
01:05:04,710 --> 01:05:02,880
and sometimes i would i would literally

1719
01:05:06,230 --> 01:05:04,720
have to go to a library and find old

1720
01:05:07,990 --> 01:05:06,240
books about ufo sightings maybe

1721
01:05:12,069 --> 01:05:08,000
published 15 20 years ago or something

1722
01:05:14,549 --> 01:05:12,079
like that to find interesting cases

1723
01:05:16,789 --> 01:05:14,559
and uh again as a journalist every week

1724
01:05:18,309 --> 01:05:16,799
you got to write something you know and

1725
01:05:19,990 --> 01:05:18,319
that was that was some of the stuff we

1726
01:05:21,750 --> 01:05:20,000
used to do and i found some very

1727
01:05:24,549 --> 01:05:21,760
intriguing stories here and there you

1728
01:05:25,670 --> 01:05:24,559
know so that's that's pretty much the

1729
01:05:27,589 --> 01:05:25,680
deal

1730
01:05:31,029 --> 01:05:27,599
we're doing it with data

1731
01:05:33,829 --> 01:05:31,039
um after the first book came out i had

1732
01:05:35,589 --> 01:05:33,839
three years worth of time to play you

1733
01:05:37,750 --> 01:05:35,599
know a lot of rainy afternoons and

1734
01:05:40,630 --> 01:05:37,760
nothing here once you retire you know

1735
01:05:42,630 --> 01:05:40,640
people say wow being retired must be fun

1736
01:05:44,710 --> 01:05:42,640
after about three months if you don't

1737
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:44,720
have grandkids which i don't

1738
01:05:49,910 --> 01:05:47,119
um it's sort of like

1739
01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:49,920
a fort it's like groundhog day four-day

1740
01:05:55,270 --> 01:05:53,200
weekend from hell that never ends

1741
01:05:57,029 --> 01:05:55,280
yeah i i don't know i hear people say

1742
01:05:59,670 --> 01:05:57,039
that and me i would find things to

1743
01:06:01,029 --> 01:05:59,680
occupy myself i'd start building things

1744
01:06:02,710 --> 01:06:01,039
or you know

1745
01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:02,720
i don't know what i would do if i had

1746
01:06:07,190 --> 01:06:05,039
all the time in the world uh but i'd

1747
01:06:09,750 --> 01:06:07,200
find something to keep me busy but

1748
01:06:11,349 --> 01:06:09,760
that's what keeps me busy you know well

1749
01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:11,359
god bless you for having the time and

1750
01:06:14,230 --> 01:06:13,280
the energy to put together

1751
01:06:16,549 --> 01:06:14,240
such a

1752
01:06:17,910 --> 01:06:16,559
data driven people people are saying to

1753
01:06:19,990 --> 01:06:17,920
me well wait a minute you said you're

1754
01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:20,000
going to do 80 books and it's been about

1755
01:06:24,789 --> 01:06:22,880
18 months okay actually we had to stop

1756
01:06:26,950 --> 01:06:24,799
everything about now because we're

1757
01:06:28,789 --> 01:06:26,960
packing everything up because we're

1758
01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:28,799
being moved to

1759
01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:30,720
cleveland ohio

1760
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:33,119
okay and we'll be out there around right

1761
01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:36,000
after halloween first week or so of uh

1762
01:06:40,150 --> 01:06:38,240
november so once we get re-established

1763
01:06:42,230 --> 01:06:40,160
get our whole house put together i get

1764
01:06:45,670 --> 01:06:42,240
we can get jump back in and work on the

1765
01:06:47,670 --> 01:06:45,680
books again once we get these books done

1766
01:06:49,349 --> 01:06:47,680
um

1767
01:06:51,750 --> 01:06:49,359
what's cheryl going to do well linda's

1768
01:06:54,390 --> 01:06:51,760
got her things that she likes to do she

1769
01:06:56,710 --> 01:06:54,400
likes to haunt museums me i'm into

1770
01:06:58,789 --> 01:06:56,720
live-action role-play gaming so i'm

1771
01:07:03,109 --> 01:06:58,799
going to go join the local larp group

1772
01:07:06,630 --> 01:07:05,190
go chase dragons and monsters and things

1773
01:07:08,789 --> 01:07:06,640
you know um

1774
01:07:11,670 --> 01:07:08,799
and and write i i write those kinds of

1775
01:07:14,150 --> 01:07:11,680
things too so uh that's what the plan is

1776
01:07:16,470 --> 01:07:14,160
is um to actually enjoy that aspect of

1777
01:07:17,670 --> 01:07:16,480
my retirement make more costuming in

1778
01:07:19,190 --> 01:07:17,680
fact you know what we're doing with our

1779
01:07:21,029 --> 01:07:19,200
new apartment

1780
01:07:23,109 --> 01:07:21,039
instead of the living room being a

1781
01:07:25,190 --> 01:07:23,119
living room

1782
01:07:27,109 --> 01:07:25,200
we're putting the tv

1783
01:07:28,870 --> 01:07:27,119
and the furniture we would normally sit

1784
01:07:30,870 --> 01:07:28,880
in for that kind of thing a couple big

1785
01:07:33,349 --> 01:07:30,880
lazy boy recliners kind of thing we're

1786
01:07:36,069 --> 01:07:33,359
putting them in the master bedroom and

1787
01:07:39,029 --> 01:07:36,079
we're making that into a tv parlor

1788
01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:39,039
remove the bed is going into just a

1789
01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:42,240
regular small bedroom just to sleep in

1790
01:07:48,150 --> 01:07:45,839
and we're taking that big 25 25 by 15

1791
01:07:50,549 --> 01:07:48,160
foot front room and we're making it into

1792
01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:50,559
a studio one end will be my riding nest

1793
01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:53,039
area at the other end every piece of

1794
01:07:56,789 --> 01:07:55,200
sewing equipment we have that's linda's

1795
01:07:59,109 --> 01:07:56,799
area and in the middle we're gonna have

1796
01:08:00,870 --> 01:07:59,119
a big huge projects table

1797
01:08:02,390 --> 01:08:00,880
okay and it could be a gaming table if

1798
01:08:04,870 --> 01:08:02,400
we want you know this is like that

1799
01:08:06,789 --> 01:08:04,880
brother stepbrothers movie more room for

1800
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:06,799
activities

1801
01:08:10,630 --> 01:08:08,720
that's exactly the plan yeah i'm real

1802
01:08:12,470 --> 01:08:10,640
big on that like i don't know i have two

1803
01:08:14,470 --> 01:08:12,480
kids so like my whole living room is

1804
01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:14,480
just filled with you know a dumpster

1805
01:08:19,749 --> 01:08:17,040
full of toys

1806
01:08:21,189 --> 01:08:19,759
but if i had if i had the choice i would

1807
01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:21,199
do something similar but i have a

1808
01:08:24,229 --> 01:08:22,880
basement for that with all my well

1809
01:08:25,829 --> 01:08:24,239
lyndon and i were always fighting each

1810
01:08:27,590 --> 01:08:25,839
other fighting with each other about who

1811
01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:27,600
got to you know take over the dining

1812
01:08:30,630 --> 01:08:29,199
room table to cut out a pattern or

1813
01:08:32,789 --> 01:08:30,640
something you know on a

1814
01:08:33,590 --> 01:08:32,799
fabric or a costume or something so we

1815
01:08:35,910 --> 01:08:33,600
said

1816
01:08:38,709 --> 01:08:35,920
look if not now when why don't we just

1817
01:08:40,390 --> 01:08:38,719
build a huge studio and just have it out

1818
01:08:42,070 --> 01:08:40,400
all the time yeah yeah and do the things

1819
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:42,080
that you enjoy anthony purcell had an

1820
01:08:44,550 --> 01:08:43,440
interesting sure

1821
01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:44,560
question

1822
01:08:47,829 --> 01:08:46,080
and he's saying that you should make all

1823
01:08:49,749 --> 01:08:47,839
your data available to the

1824
01:08:52,149 --> 01:08:49,759
website not a book so i wanted you to

1825
01:08:55,030 --> 01:08:52,159
address that because it's a valid uh

1826
01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:55,040
comment or criticism perhaps

1827
01:08:57,110 --> 01:08:55,920
okay

1828
01:08:59,910 --> 01:08:57,120
this is a

1829
01:09:03,030 --> 01:08:59,920
to descen first thing uh my intellectual

1830
01:09:04,229 --> 01:09:03,040
property attorney says no absolutely not

1831
01:09:06,149 --> 01:09:04,239
yeah okay

1832
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:06,159
okay but the the other problem with that

1833
01:09:11,189 --> 01:09:09,600
is um websites are ephemeral okay

1834
01:09:13,749 --> 01:09:11,199
they're never quite the same the next

1835
01:09:15,510 --> 01:09:13,759
day kind of thing um books are around

1836
01:09:17,189 --> 01:09:15,520
there's still you know i've got four or

1837
01:09:19,910 --> 01:09:17,199
five old phones sitting over here in a

1838
01:09:21,829 --> 01:09:19,920
box in the attic that i can't even turn

1839
01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:21,839
on anymore that

1840
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:24,239
information in there i would like dearly

1841
01:09:27,669 --> 01:09:26,560
love the hat download and get off those

1842
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:27,679
phones

1843
01:09:30,550 --> 01:09:29,120
but you know we're still finding

1844
01:09:33,669 --> 01:09:30,560
beethoven's

1845
01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:33,679
scores in people's attics to this day

1846
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:34,480
okay

1847
01:09:39,990 --> 01:09:37,600
paper is forever in a sense now that's

1848
01:09:41,669 --> 01:09:40,000
one thought the other thought is people

1849
01:09:43,590 --> 01:09:41,679
are saying why aren't you giving it a fr

1850
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:43,600
away for free on the internet and i said

1851
01:09:46,630 --> 01:09:45,040
to a number of people who were

1852
01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:46,640
haranguing me on the first book about

1853
01:09:50,390 --> 01:09:48,319
that and i said are you willing to come

1854
01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:50,400
over and mow my lawn all summer are you

1855
01:09:53,749 --> 01:09:51,920
willing to come over and paint my back

1856
01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:53,759
porch and i said well no

1857
01:09:59,910 --> 01:09:55,760
why do you expect me to give away

1858
01:10:02,630 --> 01:09:59,920
intellectual work and property i've got

1859
01:10:05,669 --> 01:10:02,640
six between these two books we've got 6

1860
01:10:08,149 --> 01:10:05,679
000 hours of logged effort now people

1861
01:10:10,630 --> 01:10:08,159
say why would you know that many hours

1862
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:10,640
we're both former government contractors

1863
01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:12,719
we know how to log time yeah you got to

1864
01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:14,800
keep track of that and by the way i just

1865
01:10:19,990 --> 01:10:16,719
want to tell everybody the book's 25

1866
01:10:22,550 --> 01:10:20,000
bucks and for a book with all of see me

1867
01:10:24,550 --> 01:10:22,560
to me it's worth every penny because

1868
01:10:26,790 --> 01:10:24,560
i want to comb through this data and see

1869
01:10:29,590 --> 01:10:26,800
if i can spot patterns

1870
01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:29,600
and and look at the data for my state

1871
01:10:34,709 --> 01:10:32,480
and uh you know and and and it really is

1872
01:10:37,189 --> 01:10:34,719
i think to anybody interested in ufos a

1873
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:37,199
desk reference look at this big monster

1874
01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:39,760
oh the pink why is it pink

1875
01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:42,400
i think because we wanted if

1876
01:10:45,590 --> 01:10:44,159
we ended up but first thing it was built

1877
01:10:47,270 --> 01:10:45,600
by a couple of women

1878
01:10:48,709 --> 01:10:47,280
which is a lot of pushback in the ufo

1879
01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:48,719
community for years

1880
01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:50,880
the other thing was we dedicated it to

1881
01:10:55,510 --> 01:10:52,880
the first woman who started collecting

1882
01:10:58,950 --> 01:10:55,520
data back in 1952

1883
01:11:01,830 --> 01:10:58,960
coral lawrence she founded apro which

1884
01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:01,840
was the predecessor to move on mm-hmm

1885
01:11:05,830 --> 01:11:03,920
okay yeah i've heard of her dedicated so

1886
01:11:08,229 --> 01:11:05,840
women basically built this book in this

1887
01:11:11,030 --> 01:11:08,239
case and the other thing is if we do end

1888
01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:11,040
up in front of congress testifying

1889
01:11:15,270 --> 01:11:13,679
we wanted to feel people to know that if

1890
01:11:17,189 --> 01:11:15,280
you see the congressman up there on

1891
01:11:19,030 --> 01:11:17,199
television flipping through a book and

1892
01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:19,040
it's bright pink you could flag in an

1893
01:11:25,750 --> 01:11:24,070
that's pretty interesting so you want to

1894
01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:25,760
be able to spot your own book if people

1895
01:11:28,870 --> 01:11:26,960
were on television with them or

1896
01:11:30,550 --> 01:11:28,880
something like that looking at it right

1897
01:11:32,709 --> 01:11:30,560
like that one time

1898
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:32,719
hillary clinton famously got

1899
01:11:36,709 --> 01:11:34,800
she had a ufo book and somebody did it

1900
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:36,719
like a close-up and found that she was

1901
01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:38,400
reading a ufo book

1902
01:11:44,709 --> 01:11:42,480
so that's pretty interesting right yeah

1903
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:44,719
so you you talked about what's next for

1904
01:11:49,030 --> 01:11:46,080
you is you're going to be publishing

1905
01:11:51,669 --> 01:11:49,040
these state by state

1906
01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:51,679
guides one for each state right one for

1907
01:11:55,189 --> 01:11:53,520
we're going to have the tables for every

1908
01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:55,199
state one of the things with the pink

1909
01:11:57,590 --> 01:11:56,400
book we did

1910
01:12:00,229 --> 01:11:57,600
which was

1911
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:00,239
as linda said was our secret sauce we

1912
01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:03,120
actually broke down each of the shapes

1913
01:12:08,149 --> 01:12:05,280
and did it by year

1914
01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:08,159
did it by did charts for by year by

1915
01:12:13,189 --> 01:12:10,239
month by hour

1916
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:13,199
okay so we actually did charts on every

1917
01:12:16,149 --> 01:12:14,800
no one had ever done this with the

1918
01:12:17,350 --> 01:12:16,159
shapes we knew they were up there we

1919
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:17,360
knew there were a certain number of them

1920
01:12:20,470 --> 01:12:18,960
but nobody ever actually started looking

1921
01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:20,480
at the patterns of

1922
01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:22,480
when they're here you know that type of

1923
01:12:26,950 --> 01:12:24,560
thing and um

1924
01:12:29,910 --> 01:12:26,960
that's when we found out there's seasons

1925
01:12:33,030 --> 01:12:29,920
you know and uh uh george knep out out

1926
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:33,040
in las vegas he he he went huh really

1927
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:35,280
you know i was like yeah there are

1928
01:12:39,270 --> 01:12:37,920
so there's still a lot hiding there in

1929
01:12:40,310 --> 01:12:39,280
the data that we haven't found yet but

1930
01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:40,320
we're going to get all these books

1931
01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:42,239
generated we got a 20-year sample which

1932
01:12:47,510 --> 01:12:44,400
is a huge

1933
01:12:49,350 --> 01:12:47,520
investment in intellectual knowledge and

1934
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:49,360
we want to get it out there so everybody

1935
01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:51,120
can get it and by publishing people say

1936
01:12:56,709 --> 01:12:53,600
why did you get a standard publisher by

1937
01:12:59,189 --> 01:12:56,719
publishing through amazon

1938
01:13:01,270 --> 01:12:59,199
we get a little bit more control of it

1939
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:01,280
also amazon is considered a global

1940
01:13:05,110 --> 01:13:03,600
distributor so we've sold this book all

1941
01:13:06,870 --> 01:13:05,120
over the world in fact we think the

1942
01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:06,880
first the first one bought in europe

1943
01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:08,560
looks like it in both cases looks like

1944
01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:13,990
the pope's reading your pink book well

1945
01:13:17,669 --> 01:13:15,840
at least the vatican library is one of

1946
01:13:19,669 --> 01:13:17,679
the other

1947
01:13:21,830 --> 01:13:19,679
no uh the vatican library is one of the

1948
01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:21,840
largest in the world especially would

1949
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:23,600
they have 10 miles of underground

1950
01:13:27,669 --> 01:13:25,440
tunnels i would give my eye teeth to

1951
01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:27,679
going to that place i know imagine the

1952
01:13:30,550 --> 01:13:29,280
secrets that they're keeping in that

1953
01:13:33,830 --> 01:13:30,560
vault i'm going to do a whole show on

1954
01:13:35,669 --> 01:13:33,840
that sometime yeah there you go

1955
01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:35,679
so that's the biggest deal that we can

1956
01:13:38,470 --> 01:13:37,040
tell you right now is we've been

1957
01:13:40,950 --> 01:13:38,480
studying this stuff we're putting the

1958
01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:40,960
data out so people can have it uh we're

1959
01:13:45,750 --> 01:13:42,719
gonna make it down easy for everybody to

1960
01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:45,760
have their home state uh on their shelf

1961
01:13:50,470 --> 01:13:48,400
if they want and uh yeah that's it

1962
01:13:52,709 --> 01:13:50,480
definitely want my i definitely want my

1963
01:13:54,070 --> 01:13:52,719
home state and and be able to try to

1964
01:13:54,950 --> 01:13:54,080
find uh

1965
01:13:57,669 --> 01:13:54,960
you know

1966
01:14:01,189 --> 01:13:57,679
the the hot spots right well okay if you

1967
01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:01,199
want to go by pure numbers bucks county

1968
01:14:04,790 --> 01:14:03,040
but and that's where i live

1969
01:14:06,310 --> 01:14:04,800
isn't that funny and i didn't know that

1970
01:14:08,229 --> 01:14:06,320
when i moved here i just happened to

1971
01:14:11,590 --> 01:14:08,239
move here actually there's some famous

1972
01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:11,600
bucks county cases one was on the ufo uh

1973
01:14:17,590 --> 01:14:14,080
what is that ufo show with john ventry

1974
01:14:19,669 --> 01:14:17,600
the mufon one ufo hanger one yeah that

1975
01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:19,679
case in bucks county is interesting and

1976
01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:22,000
that is ten minutes from my house let me

1977
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:23,520
give you the top ten counties in

1978
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:25,600
pennsylvania okay there you go that'd be

1979
01:14:29,110 --> 01:14:27,520
great yeah okay now i'm going to say

1980
01:14:31,510 --> 01:14:29,120
this is going to sound strange and i'm

1981
01:14:32,630 --> 01:14:31,520
not insulting but it's an observation

1982
01:14:37,830 --> 01:14:32,640
okay

1983
01:14:39,830 --> 01:14:37,840
county in in pennsylvania they had 636

1984
01:14:42,229 --> 01:14:39,840
in that 20 years okay

1985
01:14:45,350 --> 01:14:42,239
but funny thing about allegheny county i

1986
01:14:49,990 --> 01:14:45,360
had the most misspelled cities in the

1987
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:50,000
state were allegheny county cities

1988
01:14:53,910 --> 01:14:51,840
funny how that worked out okay bucks

1989
01:14:57,110 --> 01:14:53,920
county is number two

1990
01:14:59,189 --> 01:14:57,120
philadelphia county is number three

1991
01:15:01,750 --> 01:14:59,199
and yes she's wearing an eye of horus i

1992
01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:01,760
am a priestess of isis so yes of course

1993
01:15:04,630 --> 01:15:03,360
i wear this sort of thing

1994
01:15:11,110 --> 01:15:04,640
um

1995
01:15:11,990 --> 01:15:11,120
with 283 westmoreland county uh unknown

1996
01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:12,000
county

1997
01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:16,159
lancaster berks york lehigh uh

1998
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:17,360
last year

1999
01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:19,120
northampton county you get the drift

2000
01:15:23,750 --> 01:15:22,560
philadelphia pittsburgh allentown erie

2001
01:15:26,470 --> 01:15:23,760
redding

2002
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:26,480
lancaster york levittown bethlehem are

2003
01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:27,760
the top ten

2004
01:15:32,790 --> 01:15:29,760
you know okay they're all very close to

2005
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:32,800
me so that's very interesting to me

2006
01:15:37,910 --> 01:15:34,880
very very interesting and it's good to

2007
01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:37,920
see this look through the data lens for

2008
01:15:42,310 --> 01:15:40,320
a change instead of the storyteller

2009
01:15:45,270 --> 01:15:42,320
fairy tale lens that

2010
01:15:48,390 --> 01:15:45,280
seems to be so prevalent now it's makes

2011
01:15:50,070 --> 01:15:48,400
me sad you know it does it it bothers me

2012
01:15:52,870 --> 01:15:50,080
sometimes a great deal especially when i

2013
01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:52,880
was a journalist

2014
01:15:56,790 --> 01:15:55,199
we we did our best to make sure we had

2015
01:15:57,669 --> 01:15:56,800
an accurate story i couldn't tell you

2016
01:15:59,430 --> 01:15:57,679
who

2017
01:16:01,030 --> 01:15:59,440
because of the stigma issue and like i

2018
01:16:02,790 --> 01:16:01,040
said i couldn't tell you why because we

2019
01:16:04,149 --> 01:16:02,800
don't know why but we could tell you

2020
01:16:05,669 --> 01:16:04,159
what when and where and we tried to be

2021
01:16:07,189 --> 01:16:05,679
very straight about it and we tried to

2022
01:16:09,189 --> 01:16:07,199
make by the way i'm not a pure

2023
01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:09,199
journalist my degree is in entertainment

2024
01:16:12,550 --> 01:16:11,040
writing so i have a little bit more

2025
01:16:15,189 --> 01:16:12,560
slack to kind of punch it up a little

2026
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:15,199
bit but the story was always accurate

2027
01:16:17,669 --> 01:16:16,290
the setting wasn't

2028
01:16:20,229 --> 01:16:17,679
[Laughter]

2029
01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:20,239
yeah yeah no i you got to do the best

2030
01:16:23,669 --> 01:16:21,760
you can with what you're given and some

2031
01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:23,679
of these that some of these databases

2032
01:16:25,990 --> 01:16:24,719
right they were not going to be

2033
01:16:29,189 --> 01:16:26,000
releasing

2034
01:16:31,590 --> 01:16:29,199
names and addresses of the of the people

2035
01:16:33,350 --> 01:16:31,600
yeah the stigma was just too big a deal

2036
01:16:35,590 --> 01:16:33,360
it really is um

2037
01:16:37,189 --> 01:16:35,600
uh there's there's places right now that

2038
01:16:38,709 --> 01:16:37,199
won't talk to me because i'm that i'm

2039
01:16:40,790 --> 01:16:38,719
that kook that wrote that newspaper

2040
01:16:42,630 --> 01:16:40,800
column you know that type of thing

2041
01:16:44,390 --> 01:16:42,640
in fact the other the other newspaper in

2042
01:16:46,470 --> 01:16:44,400
town and the two radio stations and the

2043
01:16:47,669 --> 01:16:46,480
tv station won't talk to me well i

2044
01:16:49,110 --> 01:16:47,679
wouldn't think that your military

2045
01:16:51,110 --> 01:16:49,120
background and background working for

2046
01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:51,120
lockheed martin makes you somewhat more

2047
01:16:55,910 --> 01:16:53,280
credible wouldn't it you would have

2048
01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:55,920
thought so i'm i mean i'm a two-military

2049
01:17:00,229 --> 01:16:58,400
service veteran i'm a condo

2050
01:17:02,470 --> 01:17:00,239
somebody said you did data security for

2051
01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:02,480
lockheed martin i did data well okay

2052
01:17:07,030 --> 01:17:04,880
that's interesting

2053
01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:07,040
are they working on aliens over there

2054
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:09,280
you you would know no i wouldn't lie to

2055
01:17:12,950 --> 01:17:10,880
us no i wouldn't i really wouldn't got

2056
01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:12,960
some aliens right no i wouldn't no

2057
01:17:17,590 --> 01:17:15,440
backup near craft though

2058
01:17:18,390 --> 01:17:17,600
i couldn't tell you i couldn't tell a

2059
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:18,400
see

2060
01:17:22,070 --> 01:17:20,800
i don't know i don't know

2061
01:17:23,910 --> 01:17:22,080
people ask me have you ever been to

2062
01:17:25,910 --> 01:17:23,920
skunk works i said no i never had the

2063
01:17:27,830 --> 01:17:25,920
opportunity you know

2064
01:17:29,590 --> 01:17:27,840
i pretty much worked the capital

2065
01:17:31,990 --> 01:17:29,600
district it was gaithersburg maryland

2066
01:17:34,229 --> 01:17:32,000
rockville maryland bethesda maryland i i

2067
01:17:36,390 --> 01:17:34,239
serviced the computers from first second

2068
01:17:37,990 --> 01:17:36,400
and third level help desk

2069
01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:38,000
for headquarters district and that's

2070
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:40,560
what i did for bulk of my last 20 years

2071
01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:42,880
there now the first

2072
01:17:47,669 --> 01:17:45,360
10 years i was in the company uh

2073
01:17:48,950 --> 01:17:47,679
somebody figured out i was in i had gone

2074
01:17:50,790 --> 01:17:48,960
to film school and they asked me to

2075
01:17:52,790 --> 01:17:50,800
start making industrial films for them

2076
01:17:53,669 --> 01:17:52,800
which i did i made about 70 industrial

2077
01:17:56,070 --> 01:17:53,679
films

2078
01:17:57,590 --> 01:17:56,080
and uh but that was a very short-lived

2079
01:17:59,910 --> 01:17:57,600
thing because then somebody else looked

2080
01:18:01,750 --> 01:17:59,920
at my resume and personnel and said holy

2081
01:18:04,390 --> 01:18:01,760
crap she's got a

2082
01:18:07,110 --> 01:18:04,400
submarine background she knows radar we

2083
01:18:08,390 --> 01:18:07,120
need her on this project you know so oh

2084
01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:08,400
that's very interesting it's somebody in

2085
01:18:11,270 --> 01:18:09,520
the live chat

2086
01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:11,280
if anybody has any comments or questions

2087
01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:13,679
let me qualify that when i say radar

2088
01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:15,920
okay i can tell you i can tell you this

2089
01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:18,960
i was a senior electronic warfare

2090
01:18:24,070 --> 01:18:21,280
specialist in the navy

2091
01:18:26,149 --> 01:18:24,080
i climbed telephone poles in vietnam in

2092
01:18:28,470 --> 01:18:26,159
the air force people shoot at you on

2093
01:18:30,310 --> 01:18:28,480
those things um but um

2094
01:18:33,110 --> 01:18:30,320
but i was a senior electronic warfare

2095
01:18:37,030 --> 01:18:33,120
specialist i was i was accustomed to

2096
01:18:39,590 --> 01:18:37,040
analyzing data and peculiar observations

2097
01:18:41,430 --> 01:18:39,600
both electronic and optical like beyond

2098
01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:41,440
it i can't tell you what i did

2099
01:18:45,669 --> 01:18:43,520
okay and if anybody has any questions

2100
01:18:48,070 --> 01:18:45,679
please hudson valley sightings hudson

2101
01:18:50,310 --> 01:18:48,080
valley sightings okay hudson valley yes

2102
01:18:52,470 --> 01:18:50,320
it is a hotbed but it's not ground zero

2103
01:18:54,950 --> 01:18:52,480
like everybody will tell you oh hudson

2104
01:18:56,470 --> 01:18:54,960
valley is the uh core of ufos in new

2105
01:18:59,270 --> 01:18:56,480
york state they have a lot of them down

2106
01:19:00,870 --> 01:18:59,280
there but not these days

2107
01:19:02,950 --> 01:19:00,880
okay back in the 70s the place was

2108
01:19:04,070 --> 01:19:02,960
crawling with ufos these days not so

2109
01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:04,080
much

2110
01:19:07,750 --> 01:19:05,760
and lord ludacris plaid with another

2111
01:19:08,870 --> 01:19:07,760
kind and generous dollar 99 super chat

2112
01:19:10,390 --> 01:19:08,880
trying to get

2113
01:19:11,910 --> 01:19:10,400
their question in

2114
01:19:13,910 --> 01:19:11,920
and i'm sure that they're referring to

2115
01:19:16,950 --> 01:19:13,920
your time at lockheed martin did you see

2116
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:16,960
any cool documents or pics

2117
01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:18,480
no

2118
01:19:28,229 --> 01:19:25,440
never saw anything like that in fact if

2119
01:19:30,950 --> 01:19:28,239
i had classified material i can tell you

2120
01:19:33,510 --> 01:19:30,960
the stuff i did have was boring stuff is

2121
01:19:36,229 --> 01:19:33,520
usually technical specs

2122
01:19:37,750 --> 01:19:36,239
okay and so that's not very exciting

2123
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:37,760
yeah yeah what i want to thank lord

2124
01:19:41,270 --> 01:19:39,920
ludacris plaid for his kindness his

2125
01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:41,280
generosity and support remember there's

2126
01:19:44,709 --> 01:19:42,880
a money button down there we're a viewer

2127
01:19:46,709 --> 01:19:44,719
supported show thank you for your

2128
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:46,719
kindness and helping us to praise the

2129
01:19:59,830 --> 01:19:57,830
[Music]

2130
01:20:08,070 --> 01:19:59,840
can i give you one i really do have to

2131
01:20:12,950 --> 01:20:09,669
thank you very much for doing this i've

2132
01:20:15,350 --> 01:20:12,960
got one more for you um after the um

2133
01:20:16,550 --> 01:20:15,360
after the uap report came out a couple

2134
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:16,560
of weeks ago

2135
01:20:20,229 --> 01:20:18,400
you know i had reporters calling me hey

2136
01:20:21,830 --> 01:20:20,239
what do you think of the 144 settings

2137
01:20:26,550 --> 01:20:21,840
they had in 20 years in the navy i said

2138
01:20:30,470 --> 01:20:28,870
yeah that's pretty funny but but the

2139
01:20:33,430 --> 01:20:30,480
deal was um

2140
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:33,440
we decided to go after it and what we

2141
01:20:37,510 --> 01:20:35,600
did was i put together a briefing

2142
01:20:39,430 --> 01:20:37,520
package

2143
01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:39,440
for the senate intel committee which

2144
01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:42,239
happens to be senator rubio's group he's

2145
01:20:47,510 --> 01:20:44,400
one of the chairs and we put together

2146
01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:47,520
one for the house intel select committee

2147
01:20:51,350 --> 01:20:49,360
on intel okay

2148
01:20:53,189 --> 01:20:51,360
and those packages were about five

2149
01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:53,199
pounds a piece

2150
01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:55,360
and it was our book plus additional

2151
01:21:01,910 --> 01:20:58,320
pronouns uh senator rubio we gave him

2152
01:21:04,149 --> 01:21:01,920
the state of florida uh printed out

2153
01:21:06,550 --> 01:21:04,159
every shape that was seen in their state

2154
01:21:09,110 --> 01:21:06,560
remember it was 11 000 okay over 20

2155
01:21:10,870 --> 01:21:09,120
years um but it was printed out by zip

2156
01:21:13,030 --> 01:21:10,880
code and then all the shapes that were

2157
01:21:14,870 --> 01:21:13,040
seen in that zip code over 20 years and

2158
01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:14,880
the the printout was a

2159
01:21:21,510 --> 01:21:17,440
inch inch and a half thick

2160
01:21:23,430 --> 01:21:21,520
and we we we shipped it down to them and

2161
01:21:24,870 --> 01:21:23,440
haven't heard anything but about a week

2162
01:21:26,629 --> 01:21:24,880
ago

2163
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:26,639
i was walking through my apartment

2164
01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:28,480
complex happened to look down i was out

2165
01:21:32,709 --> 01:21:30,080
the hall and looked out in the parking

2166
01:21:35,350 --> 01:21:32,719
lot and there were six

2167
01:21:36,790 --> 01:21:35,360
law enforcement cars parked behind my

2168
01:21:39,350 --> 01:21:36,800
car

2169
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:39,360
okay sheriff's department the county the

2170
01:21:43,590 --> 01:21:41,520
car the county sheriff's the the the

2171
01:21:45,990 --> 01:21:43,600
townships had three cars out there there

2172
01:21:48,709 --> 01:21:46,000
was a state cop out there going oh my

2173
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:48,719
god oh my god rubio's team's coming

2174
01:21:52,550 --> 01:21:50,960
after me you know you know i didn't know

2175
01:21:54,709 --> 01:21:52,560
what to think turned out there was a

2176
01:21:56,310 --> 01:21:54,719
drug deal going down somebody called

2177
01:21:58,390 --> 01:21:56,320
somebody called it in and they

2178
01:22:00,310 --> 01:21:58,400
completely locked off our parking lot

2179
01:22:02,310 --> 01:22:00,320
you know that's funny and but when i

2180
01:22:03,990 --> 01:22:02,320
first saw the cars are going oh my god

2181
01:22:05,350 --> 01:22:04,000
you know something crazy like that

2182
01:22:07,830 --> 01:22:05,360
happened to me i was at the cabin and it

2183
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:07,840
was like one o'clock in the morning and

2184
01:22:11,750 --> 01:22:10,080
and i know a cop knock when i hear one

2185
01:22:13,830 --> 01:22:11,760
so somebody's not and i'm in the middle

2186
01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:13,840
of the woods so

2187
01:22:17,110 --> 01:22:15,360
i know the only person that would knock

2188
01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:17,120
on my door is my one close by neighbor

2189
01:22:20,870 --> 01:22:18,400
and he wouldn't knock like this they

2190
01:22:23,189 --> 01:22:20,880
were knocking like bang bang you know

2191
01:22:24,870 --> 01:22:23,199
and uh i answered the door and i alm

2192
01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:24,880
just about got tackled they just walked

2193
01:22:29,110 --> 01:22:26,719
right in and they were serving a warrant

2194
01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:29,120
on me and i'm like i i'm not the guy you

2195
01:22:32,629 --> 01:22:30,880
got the wrong guy it turned out there

2196
01:22:34,470 --> 01:22:32,639
was somebody a few more miles up the

2197
01:22:35,990 --> 01:22:34,480
dirt road in the woods

2198
01:22:38,629 --> 01:22:36,000
and they were serving a warrant on him

2199
01:22:41,110 --> 01:22:38,639
so after i showed him my id they left

2200
01:22:43,669 --> 01:22:41,120
but nobody wants cops at their cabin at

2201
01:22:46,070 --> 01:22:43,679
one o'clock in the morning yeah so

2202
01:22:48,390 --> 01:22:46,080
you have poured through all this ufo

2203
01:22:50,709 --> 01:22:48,400
data i think this is a great question to

2204
01:22:53,189 --> 01:22:50,719
close with do you believe that ufos are

2205
01:22:56,149 --> 01:22:53,199
extraterrestrial having looked at all of

2206
01:23:01,270 --> 01:22:58,550
okay no extraterrestrial is a big word

2207
01:23:04,310 --> 01:23:01,280
extra dressing means not of this

2208
01:23:06,229 --> 01:23:04,320
terrestrial ground okay uh are they from

2209
01:23:09,430 --> 01:23:06,239
other planets maybe are they from

2210
01:23:11,590 --> 01:23:09,440
another galaxy far far away maybe

2211
01:23:13,830 --> 01:23:11,600
are they from interdimensionals very

2212
01:23:15,430 --> 01:23:13,840
probably there's a very a lot of

2213
01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:15,440
evidence to suggest they're

2214
01:23:18,709 --> 01:23:16,880
interdimensional

2215
01:23:21,830 --> 01:23:18,719
especially from the concept that when we

2216
01:23:23,669 --> 01:23:21,840
set off our nukes and our nuke testing

2217
01:23:24,870 --> 01:23:23,679
it may have only looked like we blew up

2218
01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:24,880
a bunch of

2219
01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:26,400
desert sand

2220
01:23:30,629 --> 01:23:28,560
but we don't know what it did in

2221
01:23:32,550 --> 01:23:30,639
sub-dimensional areas

2222
01:23:34,950 --> 01:23:32,560
you know we may have blown whole worlds

2223
01:23:36,870 --> 01:23:34,960
up for our we know we don't know

2224
01:23:39,510 --> 01:23:36,880
and there's been suggestions that that

2225
01:23:41,669 --> 01:23:39,520
was what the case was that we're doing

2226
01:23:43,830 --> 01:23:41,679
big damage when we do it there could be

2227
01:23:45,510 --> 01:23:43,840
a ripple effect from

2228
01:23:48,629 --> 01:23:45,520
a nuclear explosion here could ripple

2229
01:23:50,709 --> 01:23:48,639
into other dimensions exactly

2230
01:23:52,390 --> 01:23:50,719
plus there's a politics issue that they

2231
01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:52,400
don't want us to get off this rock with

2232
01:23:56,790 --> 01:23:54,239
nuclear weapons

2233
01:23:58,310 --> 01:23:56,800
okay there's there's that attitude so

2234
01:24:01,030 --> 01:23:58,320
are they extraterrestrial they are

2235
01:24:03,110 --> 01:24:01,040
definitely from someplace else but not

2236
01:24:05,110 --> 01:24:03,120
from here now i lived in a buddhist

2237
01:24:07,189 --> 01:24:05,120
monastery for seven years so the

2238
01:24:08,390 --> 01:24:07,199
buddhist yogi is going to tell you

2239
01:24:11,830 --> 01:24:08,400
okay

2240
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:11,840
the universe is teeming with life

2241
01:24:17,030 --> 01:24:13,840
and we're connected to it we're all

2242
01:24:18,550 --> 01:24:17,040
connected to all beings everywhere

2243
01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:18,560
everywhere

2244
01:24:20,470 --> 01:24:19,440
okay

2245
01:24:22,149 --> 01:24:20,480
and

2246
01:24:23,990 --> 01:24:22,159
if you don't believe that fine you don't

2247
01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:24,000
have to believe it but trust me from

2248
01:24:28,229 --> 01:24:26,239
somebody who's been in that environment

2249
01:24:30,950 --> 01:24:28,239
to touch it so to speak

2250
01:24:34,070 --> 01:24:30,960
we're connected to everybody everywhere

2251
01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:34,080
every time period and uh we're all

2252
01:24:39,110 --> 01:24:37,120
concurrent it just perceives perception

2253
01:24:41,510 --> 01:24:39,120
is that we're in different times but

2254
01:24:43,430 --> 01:24:41,520
we're all concurrent trust me but so are

2255
01:24:44,709 --> 01:24:43,440
there these other beings out there yeah

2256
01:24:46,229 --> 01:24:44,719
they're out there

2257
01:24:49,270 --> 01:24:46,239
they're here too

2258
01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:49,280
okay and all this idea parent paranormal

2259
01:24:53,030 --> 01:24:51,360
stuff people say oh yeah well there's a

2260
01:24:55,510 --> 01:24:53,040
dowsing over here there's ghosts over

2261
01:24:57,030 --> 01:24:55,520
here there's ufos over here it's all one

2262
01:25:00,470 --> 01:24:57,040
phenomena

2263
01:25:03,110 --> 01:25:00,480
it's just different flavors different

2264
01:25:04,470 --> 01:25:03,120
flavors of the phenomena these are my

2265
01:25:06,390 --> 01:25:04,480
fingers that's one flavor of the

2266
01:25:08,390 --> 01:25:06,400
phenomena of cheryl this is my nose

2267
01:25:10,470 --> 01:25:08,400
that's a different flavor of cheryl my

2268
01:25:12,229 --> 01:25:10,480
mouth is a bigger noisier version of

2269
01:25:14,950 --> 01:25:12,239
cheryl okay

2270
01:25:17,510 --> 01:25:14,960
but they're all the same phenomena

2271
01:25:19,590 --> 01:25:17,520
okay so that's the deal in fact the suns

2272
01:25:21,430 --> 01:25:19,600
and all the galaxies are new well yeah

2273
01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:21,440
of course they are

2274
01:25:25,510 --> 01:25:23,760
yeah but i think that's a that's an

2275
01:25:27,669 --> 01:25:25,520
interesting thing to think about and

2276
01:25:29,270 --> 01:25:27,679
ponder so i want to thank you for taking

2277
01:25:30,950 --> 01:25:29,280
the time to do this i want to encourage

2278
01:25:31,910 --> 01:25:30,960
everybody once again

2279
01:25:34,709 --> 01:25:31,920
uh

2280
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:34,719
one second let me share my screen here

2281
01:25:40,470 --> 01:25:37,600
uh oh there we go so this is the book

2282
01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:40,480
ufo sightings desk reference

2283
01:25:45,270 --> 01:25:43,120
and i can now that's the white version

2284
01:25:46,629 --> 01:25:45,280
the pink pink version yeah okay and then

2285
01:25:48,709 --> 01:25:46,639
we have the pink version that's the

2286
01:25:50,149 --> 01:25:48,719
newest one right there

2287
01:25:52,629 --> 01:25:50,159
okay

2288
01:25:54,470 --> 01:25:52,639
yeah i want the pink one

2289
01:25:56,629 --> 01:25:54,480
i won't mistake it for another book

2290
01:25:58,310 --> 01:25:56,639
right right

2291
01:26:00,310 --> 01:25:58,320
let me get that one up on the screen

2292
01:26:03,270 --> 01:26:00,320
just so here it is

2293
01:26:04,310 --> 01:26:03,280
a good good enough plug here oh there we

2294
01:26:06,870 --> 01:26:04,320
go

2295
01:26:09,189 --> 01:26:06,880
and i'll tell you what when we start

2296
01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:09,199
releasing the individual state books i

2297
01:26:13,430 --> 01:26:11,360
will get a hold of you and

2298
01:26:16,310 --> 01:26:13,440
i'll make sure pennsylvania gets into

2299
01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:16,320
the production stack early and we'll get

2300
01:26:20,629 --> 01:26:18,320
a hold of you and we'll make sure

2301
01:26:22,790 --> 01:26:20,639
you know we talk about pennsylvania

2302
01:26:24,149 --> 01:26:22,800
sure sure great well i can't thank you

2303
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:24,159
enough so i'm going to throw you out of

2304
01:26:28,390 --> 01:26:25,840
here i hope that you will come back

2305
01:26:30,149 --> 01:26:28,400
again and and talk to us once again

2306
01:26:32,070 --> 01:26:30,159
anytime maybe i can get linda to come

2307
01:26:33,110 --> 01:26:32,080
with me next time

2308
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:33,120
yeah

2309
01:26:37,910 --> 01:26:36,480
exciting i think i warn you though i

2310
01:26:40,950 --> 01:26:37,920
warn you though

2311
01:26:43,030 --> 01:26:40,960
she is a scientist so i warned one

2312
01:26:44,629 --> 01:26:43,040
another tacos and he got her on i warned

2313
01:26:46,470 --> 01:26:44,639
him in advance she shoots from the hip

2314
01:26:49,430 --> 01:26:46,480
with two machine guns you know she's a

2315
01:26:50,550 --> 01:26:49,440
very different conversation reminds me

2316
01:26:51,510 --> 01:26:50,560
of my wife

2317
01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:51,520
she's

2318
01:27:00,790 --> 01:26:58,480
98 pounds and i'm terrified of her mine

2319
01:27:02,470 --> 01:27:00,800
and she's a former hippie you got to

2320
01:27:05,110 --> 01:27:02,480
watch those those little chicks those

2321
01:27:06,390 --> 01:27:05,120
are the scary ones okay

2322
01:27:08,390 --> 01:27:06,400
all right i'm gonna throw you out of

2323
01:27:10,070 --> 01:27:08,400
here i appreciate your time i'm just

2324
01:27:11,830 --> 01:27:10,080
gonna i'm just gonna knock you out of

2325
01:27:13,750 --> 01:27:11,840
the stream and do a quick well we're

2326
01:27:15,110 --> 01:27:13,760
gonna do a wrap up and maybe uh give

2327
01:27:16,470 --> 01:27:15,120
some time for after thought and

2328
01:27:18,470 --> 01:27:16,480
discussion with the live chat but i

2329
01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:18,480
appreciate you being here bye everybody

2330
01:27:21,669 --> 01:27:20,000
thank you for having me thank you all

2331
01:27:24,790 --> 01:27:21,679
right bye bye

2332
01:27:26,550 --> 01:27:24,800
all right great great friends so what

2333
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:26,560
what an interesting conversation and

2334
01:27:30,470 --> 01:27:29,360
this reminds me that i really do need to

2335
01:27:32,950 --> 01:27:30,480
uh

2336
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:32,960
stop always looking on the dark side of

2337
01:27:38,629 --> 01:27:34,960
this thing and look for the good people

2338
01:27:41,189 --> 01:27:38,639
who i do believe i could say are doing

2339
01:27:43,830 --> 01:27:41,199
good or important work that will move

2340
01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:43,840
this forward any comments or questions

2341
01:27:46,470 --> 01:27:44,800
for me

2342
01:27:48,310 --> 01:27:46,480
please put them in the live chat

2343
01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:48,320
or we're going to be bouncing out of

2344
01:27:50,070 --> 01:27:49,280
here

2345
01:27:51,750 --> 01:27:50,080
uh

2346
01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:51,760
very very shortly

2347
01:27:55,990 --> 01:27:53,920
so i you know i want to thank my guests

2348
01:27:58,830 --> 01:27:56,000
tonight let me get the

2349
01:28:01,910 --> 01:27:58,840
banner down

2350
01:28:04,470 --> 01:28:01,920
yeah and i also want to remind you

2351
01:28:07,430 --> 01:28:04,480
to please make sure i got to do that

2352
01:28:08,390 --> 01:28:07,440
youtube pitch that's it sort of required

2353
01:28:10,310 --> 01:28:08,400
right

2354
01:28:11,430 --> 01:28:10,320
and that would be to remind everybody

2355
01:28:14,070 --> 01:28:11,440
there's a few ways that you could

2356
01:28:16,229 --> 01:28:14,080
support our show the first way is by

2357
01:28:18,790 --> 01:28:16,239
throwing money at me we have a patreon

2358
01:28:20,950 --> 01:28:18,800
just uh search for stephen campion the

2359
01:28:22,870 --> 01:28:20,960
link is in the about section it's as

2360
01:28:24,470 --> 01:28:22,880
little as a dollar a month when we give

2361
01:28:25,830 --> 01:28:24,480
a backstage view

2362
01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:25,840
of some of the stuff that we're working

2363
01:28:28,790 --> 01:28:27,920
on i'm doing this screen test for our

2364
01:28:29,910 --> 01:28:28,800
new

2365
01:28:33,430 --> 01:28:29,920
character

2366
01:28:34,870 --> 01:28:33,440
richard doe scam uh this week

2367
01:28:36,709 --> 01:28:34,880
you'll get to take a look at that before

2368
01:28:39,350 --> 01:28:36,719
it's made public and we do a public show

2369
01:28:40,709 --> 01:28:39,360
with it i do an audio journal i'm sorry

2370
01:28:42,149 --> 01:28:40,719
i keep calling it an audio journal it

2371
01:28:44,310 --> 01:28:42,159
used to be an audio journal we do a

2372
01:28:46,149 --> 01:28:44,320
video journal all about the show every

2373
01:28:48,149 --> 01:28:46,159
single month on patreon that's one of

2374
01:28:49,990 --> 01:28:48,159
the patreon benefits and i upload a few

2375
01:28:51,270 --> 01:28:50,000
songs a month of my music a lot of

2376
01:28:52,790 --> 01:28:51,280
people have commented on the music of

2377
01:28:55,750 --> 01:28:52,800
the show

2378
01:28:57,990 --> 01:28:55,760
my music with vocals and singing in it

2379
01:28:59,189 --> 01:28:58,000
is a project called dreams in the dark

2380
01:29:00,790 --> 01:28:59,199
and we

2381
01:29:02,709 --> 01:29:00,800
share a few of those songs i'm working

2382
01:29:04,310 --> 01:29:02,719
on a new album but the patreon people

2383
01:29:05,750 --> 01:29:04,320
are getting the album piece by piece for

2384
01:29:07,350 --> 01:29:05,760
free

2385
01:29:08,709 --> 01:29:07,360
and also there's the money button you

2386
01:29:10,790 --> 01:29:08,719
can throw money at us through a super

2387
01:29:12,629 --> 01:29:10,800
chat or paypal donation all those links

2388
01:29:15,510 --> 01:29:12,639
are in the about section

2389
01:29:17,910 --> 01:29:15,520
of our channel and in every video

2390
01:29:19,510 --> 01:29:17,920
uh description there is links there you

2391
01:29:21,189 --> 01:29:19,520
can also buy me a coffee but it's really

2392
01:29:22,830 --> 01:29:21,199
buy me a beer since i'm not a coffee

2393
01:29:25,669 --> 01:29:22,840
drinker

2394
01:29:27,750 --> 01:29:25,679
uh that's the first way to support our

2395
01:29:29,669 --> 01:29:27,760
show here uh we

2396
01:29:31,830 --> 01:29:29,679
really do appreciate and value

2397
01:29:33,110 --> 01:29:31,840
everybody's support first of all if you

2398
01:29:35,110 --> 01:29:33,120
send us i'm gonna check in with the

2399
01:29:37,669 --> 01:29:35,120
paypal right now if you send us a paypal

2400
01:29:40,390 --> 01:29:37,679
donation just put in the about section

2401
01:29:42,470 --> 01:29:40,400
or excuse me add a note when you send a

2402
01:29:44,149 --> 01:29:42,480
paypal donation add a note

2403
01:29:46,950 --> 01:29:44,159
and you can write anything that you want

2404
01:29:50,229 --> 01:29:46,960
to us and we read it on air here

2405
01:29:52,470 --> 01:29:50,239
okay and uh no we haven't had any of

2406
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:52,480
those since the last time we read them

2407
01:29:57,270 --> 01:29:54,880
and if you send in a super chat we read

2408
01:29:59,510 --> 01:29:57,280
every single super chat and we thank

2409
01:30:01,110 --> 01:29:59,520
everybody tremendously

2410
01:30:03,430 --> 01:30:01,120
somebody commented tonight asked where

2411
01:30:04,830 --> 01:30:03,440
the cash clown was and uh boy that's a

2412
01:30:07,669 --> 01:30:04,840
whole story

2413
01:30:09,990 --> 01:30:07,679
uh i'm gonna be as brief as possible

2414
01:30:11,990 --> 01:30:10,000
because i don't wanna

2415
01:30:14,629 --> 01:30:12,000
i don't wanna say too much about that

2416
01:30:16,390 --> 01:30:14,639
situation except here's what i'll say

2417
01:30:18,550 --> 01:30:16,400
another show host

2418
01:30:21,189 --> 01:30:18,560
said something like i'm exploiting

2419
01:30:23,430 --> 01:30:21,199
children for using my son in my show and

2420
01:30:25,669 --> 01:30:23,440
that's against youtube's uh terms of

2421
01:30:26,870 --> 01:30:25,679
service and somebody should report my

2422
01:30:30,790 --> 01:30:26,880
show

2423
01:30:33,430 --> 01:30:30,800
uh you know and this is uh

2424
01:30:35,830 --> 01:30:33,440
i don't know what that guy's problem is

2425
01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:35,840
you know uh

2426
01:30:40,229 --> 01:30:38,400
bad blood i guess and part of that's my

2427
01:30:42,149 --> 01:30:40,239
fault i made some disparaging comments

2428
01:30:44,390 --> 01:30:42,159
about having

2429
01:30:45,350 --> 01:30:44,400
this person hosting

2430
01:31:07,750 --> 01:30:45,360
a

2431
01:31:10,950 --> 01:31:07,760
you know

2432
01:31:11,830 --> 01:31:10,960
and and most importantly

2433
01:31:13,510 --> 01:31:11,840
this

2434
01:31:15,350 --> 01:31:13,520
conspiracy land

2435
01:31:17,350 --> 01:31:15,360
whack-a-doo

2436
01:31:20,229 --> 01:31:17,360
pushed the

2437
01:31:21,990 --> 01:31:20,239
fake stories about the tragic suicide of

2438
01:31:23,830 --> 01:31:22,000
mark mccandlish we've covered that here

2439
01:31:25,030 --> 01:31:23,840
previously there's three videos

2440
01:31:27,350 --> 01:31:25,040
all i'm going to tell you is that was

2441
01:31:29,590 --> 01:31:27,360
just a tragic suicide so any of these

2442
01:31:31,830 --> 01:31:29,600
nutters who are out there telling people

2443
01:31:33,830 --> 01:31:31,840
that the men in black murdered him he

2444
01:31:36,709 --> 01:31:33,840
knew too much about alien reproduction

2445
01:31:38,790 --> 01:31:36,719
vehicles all this garbage and by the way

2446
01:31:41,110 --> 01:31:38,800
making money

2447
01:31:43,910 --> 01:31:41,120
shoveling that garbage

2448
01:31:44,709 --> 01:31:43,920
so yeah i said something like that's not

2449
01:31:48,629 --> 01:31:44,719
true

2450
01:31:50,550 --> 01:31:48,639
to the coroner's office i talk to the

2451
01:31:51,750 --> 01:31:50,560
investigating officer i have the real

2452
01:31:53,590 --> 01:31:51,760
story

2453
01:31:56,709 --> 01:31:53,600
but this other show host decided to just

2454
01:32:00,149 --> 01:31:56,719
let her sit there and lie about a tragic

2455
01:32:02,550 --> 01:32:00,159
man's suicide so

2456
01:32:04,310 --> 01:32:02,560
sorry not sorry i said that this is

2457
01:32:06,950 --> 01:32:04,320
whackadoo

2458
01:32:10,550 --> 01:32:06,960
and i guess in retaliation they can't

2459
01:32:12,709 --> 01:32:10,560
attack my investigative work they can't

2460
01:32:14,629 --> 01:32:12,719
we got the goods

2461
01:32:16,629 --> 01:32:14,639
the whole mark mccandless story we did

2462
01:32:19,590 --> 01:32:16,639
three shows on it

2463
01:32:21,669 --> 01:32:19,600
i talked to everybody that i could that

2464
01:32:23,990 --> 01:32:21,679
was involved with that

2465
01:32:25,830 --> 01:32:24,000
investigation into his suicide at the

2466
01:32:27,590 --> 01:32:25,840
local level i talked to the coroner's

2467
01:32:29,990 --> 01:32:27,600
office i talk to the police department i

2468
01:32:32,950 --> 01:32:30,000
talk to the investigating officer i talk

2469
01:32:35,430 --> 01:32:32,960
to many of mark mark mccandless's

2470
01:32:36,550 --> 01:32:35,440
friends and family all of them

2471
01:32:39,030 --> 01:32:36,560
refute

2472
01:32:40,390 --> 01:32:39,040
these wackadoo conspiracy land stories

2473
01:32:43,430 --> 01:32:40,400
that are going around so they can't

2474
01:32:45,910 --> 01:32:43,440
attack my investigative skills or the

2475
01:32:48,709 --> 01:32:45,920
truth that we present here so what is

2476
01:32:53,430 --> 01:32:48,719
what is what does the guy do he says i'm

2477
01:32:59,270 --> 01:32:54,470
my son

2478
01:33:00,229 --> 01:32:59,280
wanted to learn uh about earning money

2479
01:33:02,070 --> 01:33:00,239
you know

2480
01:33:03,510 --> 01:33:02,080
and i'm teaching him that

2481
01:33:05,510 --> 01:33:03,520
i you know

2482
01:33:07,990 --> 01:33:05,520
i don't think we're doing anything wrong

2483
01:33:10,470 --> 01:33:08,000
i have read and checked into the terms

2484
01:33:12,310 --> 01:33:10,480
of service myself and it appears that we

2485
01:33:14,310 --> 01:33:12,320
are completely and totally fully in

2486
01:33:16,709 --> 01:33:14,320
compliance his his

2487
01:33:17,910 --> 01:33:16,719
statement was that i can't have a child

2488
01:33:19,030 --> 01:33:17,920
on an adult

2489
01:33:21,350 --> 01:33:19,040
show

2490
01:33:23,270 --> 01:33:21,360
but according to youtube i can as long

2491
01:33:26,709 --> 01:33:23,280
as i'm not exposing him to you know

2492
01:33:28,629 --> 01:33:26,719
anything harmful or nudity or adult

2493
01:33:31,750 --> 01:33:28,639
language or anything and of course i'm

2494
01:33:34,629 --> 01:33:31,760
not i film him dressed up like a clown

2495
01:33:35,590 --> 01:33:34,639
saying praise the cash he loved being on

2496
01:33:39,030 --> 01:33:35,600
the show

2497
01:33:41,669 --> 01:33:39,040
he's so proud right he goes and finds

2498
01:33:42,870 --> 01:33:41,679
the shows somehow on amazon music or on

2499
01:33:45,590 --> 01:33:42,880
youtube

2500
01:33:48,470 --> 01:33:45,600
and he jumps up and down excited as can

2501
01:33:50,470 --> 01:33:48,480
be every time he sees himself on my show

2502
01:33:51,830 --> 01:33:50,480
i'm not going to apologize for including

2503
01:33:53,990 --> 01:33:51,840
my son

2504
01:33:56,149 --> 01:33:54,000
but it's it's important that i be very

2505
01:33:57,270 --> 01:33:56,159
clear in that just out of the bun i

2506
01:33:59,189 --> 01:33:57,280
don't think we're doing anything wrong

2507
01:34:00,149 --> 01:33:59,199
and as i read the terms of service we're

2508
01:34:03,030 --> 01:34:00,159
not

2509
01:34:04,950 --> 01:34:03,040
but just out of an abundance of caution

2510
01:34:06,870 --> 01:34:04,960
i i'm not using them

2511
01:34:09,350 --> 01:34:06,880
i've reviewed the terms of service i

2512
01:34:12,070 --> 01:34:09,360
have letters into youtube support just

2513
01:34:13,830 --> 01:34:12,080
to clarify this issue that we're okay

2514
01:34:15,590 --> 01:34:13,840
and also

2515
01:34:17,910 --> 01:34:15,600
i have a friend who actually works at

2516
01:34:19,590 --> 01:34:17,920
youtube an old friend i don't speak to

2517
01:34:20,950 --> 01:34:19,600
him very often but i've reached out to

2518
01:34:23,910 --> 01:34:20,960
him

2519
01:34:25,669 --> 01:34:23,920
and he will be able to clarify for me

2520
01:34:28,149 --> 01:34:25,679
that we are a hundred percent in

2521
01:34:30,310 --> 01:34:28,159
compliance with youtube terms of service

2522
01:34:33,189 --> 01:34:30,320
and youtube child safety guidelines by

2523
01:34:33,990 --> 01:34:33,199
using my son in a bumper thanking people

2524
01:34:37,990 --> 01:34:34,000
for

2525
01:34:39,990 --> 01:34:38,000
once i've done that we'll put them right

2526
01:34:41,030 --> 01:34:40,000
back in but just out of an abundance of

2527
01:34:42,390 --> 01:34:41,040
caution

2528
01:34:43,990 --> 01:34:42,400
i wanted to

2529
01:34:45,510 --> 01:34:44,000
not use them and i just want to tell

2530
01:34:48,229 --> 01:34:45,520
that other show host if you want to

2531
01:34:49,990 --> 01:34:48,239
attack me go ahead but don't attack my

2532
01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:50,000
child who's just trying to help me with

2533
01:34:55,350 --> 01:34:52,800
my show that's ridiculous

2534
01:34:57,510 --> 01:34:55,360
and it and it really shows what kind of

2535
01:35:00,149 --> 01:34:57,520
a person you are now i have to explain

2536
01:35:02,709 --> 01:35:00,159
to my son that i can't that he can't be

2537
01:35:05,270 --> 01:35:02,719
on my show for a while until we

2538
01:35:07,430 --> 01:35:05,280
you know nail this issue down and make

2539
01:35:09,270 --> 01:35:07,440
sure that we're 100 in compliance and my

2540
01:35:10,149 --> 01:35:09,280
son cried

2541
01:35:12,070 --> 01:35:10,159
you know

2542
01:35:14,149 --> 01:35:12,080
so uh

2543
01:35:16,149 --> 01:35:14,159
i don't know i don't know what to say

2544
01:35:17,910 --> 01:35:16,159
except it you know

2545
01:35:21,109 --> 01:35:17,920
where i'm from

2546
01:35:24,149 --> 01:35:21,119
it's it's it's one thing to attack

2547
01:35:26,629 --> 01:35:24,159
a man but when you attack his children

2548
01:35:29,109 --> 01:35:26,639
what do you think's gonna happen

2549
01:35:31,590 --> 01:35:29,119
you know but i listen

2550
01:35:34,310 --> 01:35:31,600
i i'm really trying to stay in my zen

2551
01:35:36,149 --> 01:35:34,320
zone and just forgive it

2552
01:35:38,149 --> 01:35:36,159
i will forgive

2553
01:35:40,470 --> 01:35:38,159
stupid comments from stupid people who

2554
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:40,480
by the way he's wrong about that i

2555
01:35:44,470 --> 01:35:42,880
believe he's wrong 100 wrong

2556
01:35:46,149 --> 01:35:44,480
and

2557
01:35:48,709 --> 01:35:46,159
certainly wrong about the conspiracy

2558
01:35:49,669 --> 01:35:48,719
land nutters he's hosting and you know

2559
01:35:51,990 --> 01:35:49,679
oh

2560
01:35:53,109 --> 01:35:52,000
whatever i you know i forgive but i

2561
01:35:56,070 --> 01:35:53,119
don't forget

2562
01:35:58,950 --> 01:35:56,080
and and ask anybody that knows me don't

2563
01:36:01,270 --> 01:35:58,960
piss me off you make my son cry you're

2564
01:36:04,229 --> 01:36:01,280
gonna piss me off you did piss me off

2565
01:36:06,310 --> 01:36:04,239
and you wouldn't like me when i'm angry

2566
01:36:08,790 --> 01:36:06,320
and we're gonna leave it at that

2567
01:36:10,790 --> 01:36:08,800
but like i said i will forgive but i

2568
01:36:13,990 --> 01:36:10,800
won't forget so we're looking into the

2569
01:36:15,830 --> 01:36:14,000
issue once we are 100 certain we'll put

2570
01:36:17,109 --> 01:36:15,840
those bumpers back in

2571
01:36:19,830 --> 01:36:17,119
uh

2572
01:36:21,830 --> 01:36:19,840
yeah and i'm upset that my son is upset

2573
01:36:23,430 --> 01:36:21,840
right because we had more things planned

2574
01:36:25,830 --> 01:36:23,440
he wants to do uh

2575
01:36:28,070 --> 01:36:25,840
he wants to uh dress up like a zombie

2576
01:36:29,669 --> 01:36:28,080
and and do a bumper for the show and a

2577
01:36:30,709 --> 01:36:29,679
few other things that we were talking

2578
01:36:31,750 --> 01:36:30,719
about

2579
01:36:34,629 --> 01:36:31,760
uh

2580
01:36:36,390 --> 01:36:34,639
planned right

2581
01:36:38,790 --> 01:36:36,400
oh that girl jessica that'll make him

2582
01:36:40,910 --> 01:36:38,800
feel better i will tell them and i'm

2583
01:36:43,350 --> 01:36:40,920
certain i'm i'm i'm

2584
01:36:45,590 --> 01:36:43,360
99.9 certain that we're fully in

2585
01:36:47,350 --> 01:36:45,600
compliance but just like i said just had

2586
01:36:48,950 --> 01:36:47,360
an abundance of caution

2587
01:36:51,109 --> 01:36:48,960
if this other show host is telling

2588
01:36:53,510 --> 01:36:51,119
people and let me be clear he didn't

2589
01:36:55,669 --> 01:36:53,520
tell people to report me he said he

2590
01:36:57,669 --> 01:36:55,679
implied that somebody should or he said

2591
01:36:59,350 --> 01:36:57,679
what did he say exactly he said it'd be

2592
01:37:01,189 --> 01:36:59,360
a shame if somebody reported him to

2593
01:37:03,189 --> 01:37:01,199
youtube for that wouldn't it or

2594
01:37:05,189 --> 01:37:03,199
something like that which to me is

2595
01:37:07,270 --> 01:37:05,199
encouraging people to report me

2596
01:37:10,470 --> 01:37:07,280
and another thing that i would just like

2597
01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:10,480
to say is the first rule of youtube it's

2598
01:37:15,350 --> 01:37:13,199
an unwritten rule is you do not threaten

2599
01:37:17,590 --> 01:37:15,360
another youtube channels

2600
01:37:19,030 --> 01:37:17,600
youtube content creators channel you

2601
01:37:20,870 --> 01:37:19,040
just don't do it there's some things you

2602
01:37:23,669 --> 01:37:20,880
don't do on youtube and one of them is

2603
01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:23,679
to threaten a fellow youtube content

2604
01:37:26,629 --> 01:37:25,040
creators channel

2605
01:37:28,310 --> 01:37:26,639
i don't care what this guy does i would

2606
01:37:30,229 --> 01:37:28,320
never threaten his channel or tell

2607
01:37:32,629 --> 01:37:30,239
people to report his channel if he wants

2608
01:37:34,390 --> 01:37:32,639
to host wackadoos that are telling alien

2609
01:37:37,350 --> 01:37:34,400
fairy tales on his show to get clicks

2610
01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:37,360
and views good for him good for him but

2611
01:37:41,430 --> 01:37:39,440
any perceived credibility that guy had

2612
01:37:43,750 --> 01:37:41,440
is circling the drain

2613
01:37:46,310 --> 01:37:43,760
just with that and i'm sure that there's

2614
01:37:47,270 --> 01:37:46,320
going to be more wackadoo nutters

2615
01:37:49,830 --> 01:37:47,280
uh

2616
01:37:51,830 --> 01:37:49,840
telling fairy tales on his show

2617
01:37:53,669 --> 01:37:51,840
that but you know here's the thing it's

2618
01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:53,679
like that serenity prayer i have to

2619
01:37:58,149 --> 01:37:56,320
accept the things i can't i can't change

2620
01:38:01,109 --> 01:37:58,159
you know i can confront people when

2621
01:38:03,990 --> 01:38:01,119
they're helping uh a conspiracy land

2622
01:38:04,870 --> 01:38:04,000
nutter profit off the tragic suicide of

2623
01:38:05,990 --> 01:38:04,880
a man

2624
01:38:09,350 --> 01:38:06,000
i could

2625
01:38:11,590 --> 01:38:09,360
he said i protest it okay well i can i

2626
01:38:13,109 --> 01:38:11,600
can protest but i can't change people

2627
01:38:14,550 --> 01:38:13,119
can't change people's opinion and i'm

2628
01:38:16,870 --> 01:38:14,560
not going to

2629
01:38:19,270 --> 01:38:16,880
i'm not gonna you know i i gotta just

2630
01:38:20,950 --> 01:38:19,280
learn to accept things right anthony

2631
01:38:22,629 --> 01:38:20,960
purcell says cash claim will be missed

2632
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:22,639
well he'll be back shortly as soon as

2633
01:38:24,629 --> 01:38:23,760
we're sure

2634
01:38:26,390 --> 01:38:24,639
uh

2635
01:38:29,510 --> 01:38:26,400
as soon as we're sure that we're we're

2636
01:38:31,270 --> 01:38:29,520
good and i believe that we are

2637
01:38:32,950 --> 01:38:31,280
yeah lord ludacris platt we were giving

2638
01:38:34,870 --> 01:38:32,960
donations for him so that he can buy

2639
01:38:37,590 --> 01:38:34,880
toys yeah great but that's another whole

2640
01:38:39,189 --> 01:38:37,600
issue because according to uh youtube uh

2641
01:38:40,950 --> 01:38:39,199
like i said this whole thing is a can of

2642
01:38:43,030 --> 01:38:40,960
worms but i'm gonna do whatever we have

2643
01:38:45,510 --> 01:38:43,040
to do to be in compliance

2644
01:38:46,790 --> 01:38:45,520
and uh and yeah somebody's wondering who

2645
01:38:48,390 --> 01:38:46,800
i'm talking about i'm not even

2646
01:38:49,830 --> 01:38:48,400
mentioning the guy because i'm not

2647
01:38:51,510 --> 01:38:49,840
punching down and i don't want to

2648
01:38:52,550 --> 01:38:51,520
encourage anybody to check out his

2649
01:38:55,030 --> 01:38:52,560
channel

2650
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:58,709
uh

2651
01:39:03,189 --> 01:39:00,629
no it's not it's not mikey horn but

2652
01:39:05,510 --> 01:39:03,199
mikey horn is sending mikey horn is

2653
01:39:07,350 --> 01:39:05,520
sending his hordes of i think it's

2654
01:39:08,790 --> 01:39:07,360
mostly him there's all these sock puppet

2655
01:39:11,030 --> 01:39:08,800
accounts telling me what a terrible

2656
01:39:12,070 --> 01:39:11,040
person i am for posting that

2657
01:39:14,310 --> 01:39:12,080
uh

2658
01:39:16,149 --> 01:39:14,320
clip from my former radio show where

2659
01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:16,159
mikey horn is citing a convicted child

2660
01:39:23,350 --> 01:39:19,360
molester as a source that alien

2661
01:39:27,030 --> 01:39:25,189
yeah there are thousands of cute kid

2662
01:39:29,669 --> 01:39:27,040
videos on youtube but i don't know that

2663
01:39:31,830 --> 01:39:29,679
they're on adult shows this show is an

2664
01:39:33,990 --> 01:39:31,840
adult show so there may be an issue

2665
01:39:37,430 --> 01:39:34,000
there i really don't think that there is

2666
01:39:40,310 --> 01:39:37,440
we have uh we have reached out to both

2667
01:39:42,790 --> 01:39:40,320
youtube through emails youtube support

2668
01:39:45,189 --> 01:39:42,800
and also through a friend of mine uh

2669
01:39:47,189 --> 01:39:45,199
that actually works for youtube

2670
01:39:49,030 --> 01:39:47,199
i'm waiting for him to get back to me

2671
01:39:51,350 --> 01:39:49,040
old friend owes me a few favors i'm

2672
01:39:53,669 --> 01:39:51,360
gonna have him look into the issue look

2673
01:39:55,910 --> 01:39:53,679
at what we did and tell me if there's a

2674
01:39:58,550 --> 01:39:55,920
problem or not and i i'm like i said i'm

2675
01:40:00,870 --> 01:39:58,560
99.9 sure it's not

2676
01:40:05,430 --> 01:40:00,880
um

2677
01:40:08,070 --> 01:40:05,440
i'm 99.9 sure we are not in any any

2678
01:40:10,390 --> 01:40:08,080
jeopardy of getting reported or stricken

2679
01:40:11,990 --> 01:40:10,400
for doing that but it is what it is ufo

2680
01:40:14,550 --> 01:40:12,000
watchdog is here and says that clip is

2681
01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:14,560
hilarious horn was in full meltdown mode

2682
01:40:18,470 --> 01:40:16,800
i know he started yelling at me and you

2683
01:40:20,470 --> 01:40:18,480
know i'm proud of myself for the way i

2684
01:40:21,430 --> 01:40:20,480
handled that because that was live on

2685
01:40:22,390 --> 01:40:21,440
air

2686
01:40:24,950 --> 01:40:22,400
like

2687
01:40:27,910 --> 01:40:24,960
he was yelling and screaming at me

2688
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:27,920
and we were live at the time so and i

2689
01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:29,920
was very inexperienced as a show host

2690
01:40:34,950 --> 01:40:31,920
but then i started listening to what he

2691
01:40:37,109 --> 01:40:34,960
was saying ufo watchdog and i'm like

2692
01:40:39,030 --> 01:40:37,119
i should stop him this is crazy and then

2693
01:40:40,790 --> 01:40:39,040
i went no this is great radio i'm not

2694
01:40:45,350 --> 01:40:40,800
going to stop him let him hang himself i

2695
01:40:50,229 --> 01:40:47,750
v says mike is still emailing me you

2696
01:40:53,510 --> 01:40:50,239
know it goes in six month cycles v every

2697
01:40:55,750 --> 01:40:53,520
time i wake the sleeping nutter

2698
01:40:58,149 --> 01:40:55,760
mikey horn or billy meyer i get six

2699
01:41:01,430 --> 01:40:58,159
months of harassing trolling

2700
01:41:04,709 --> 01:41:01,440
comments on my videos i get six months

2701
01:41:06,870 --> 01:41:04,719
of harassing emails people even

2702
01:41:08,950 --> 01:41:06,880
messaging me on facebook dming me on

2703
01:41:11,189 --> 01:41:08,960
twitter telling me you know i'm an evil

2704
01:41:13,750 --> 01:41:11,199
and i'm going to hell

2705
01:41:16,390 --> 01:41:13,760
you know because billy meyer you know

2706
01:41:19,030 --> 01:41:16,400
not only is he an alien contactee but

2707
01:41:20,709 --> 01:41:19,040
you know jesus was an alien too and i'm

2708
01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:20,719
gonna go to hell because i don't believe

2709
01:41:25,350 --> 01:41:23,679
him and you know it's just ridiculous

2710
01:41:27,350 --> 01:41:25,360
and in fact uh

2711
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:27,360
i saw rich giordano

2712
01:41:32,070 --> 01:41:30,000
was here from goof on and goof on is

2713
01:41:33,270 --> 01:41:32,080
doing a debate between mikey horn and

2714
01:41:37,109 --> 01:41:33,280
somebody

2715
01:41:38,470 --> 01:41:37,119
and i think they wanted me to but i said

2716
01:41:40,310 --> 01:41:38,480
uh

2717
01:41:41,830 --> 01:41:40,320
no i don't want to do that because the

2718
01:41:43,590 --> 01:41:41,840
real person that mikey horn should

2719
01:41:47,030 --> 01:41:43,600
debate is not me

2720
01:41:49,430 --> 01:41:47,040
it's kalkorf and he ducked kalkorf

2721
01:41:51,430 --> 01:41:49,440
at least three or four times once on my

2722
01:41:53,590 --> 01:41:51,440
show for those that don't know

2723
01:41:55,830 --> 01:41:53,600
mikey horn came on my show

2724
01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:55,840
and then kalkwarf came on my show and

2725
01:42:01,270 --> 01:41:58,320
just ripped the billy myer cult of

2726
01:42:02,870 --> 01:42:01,280
shreds like he's got all the dirt on

2727
01:42:05,350 --> 01:42:02,880
them and then there was supposed to be a

2728
01:42:07,750 --> 01:42:05,360
debate between mikey horn and kalkorf

2729
01:42:09,830 --> 01:42:07,760
but after his dismal performance trying

2730
01:42:12,629 --> 01:42:09,840
to prove to me billy meyer was real on

2731
01:42:14,950 --> 01:42:12,639
the show we did together and kalkorf

2732
01:42:17,030 --> 01:42:14,960
ripping billy meyer to shreds

2733
01:42:18,950 --> 01:42:17,040
he weaseled out of the debate then he

2734
01:42:20,790 --> 01:42:18,960
blamed me then he went on another show

2735
01:42:22,550 --> 01:42:20,800
saying i'm too cowardly to debate him

2736
01:42:24,390 --> 01:42:22,560
and i'm like wait a minute

2737
01:42:26,870 --> 01:42:24,400
that wasn't the deal the deal was and i

2738
01:42:28,550 --> 01:42:26,880
have the email still was all in writing

2739
01:42:30,709 --> 01:42:28,560
kalkwarf does an appearance you do an

2740
01:42:38,229 --> 01:42:30,719
appearance then you appear together and

2741
01:42:42,390 --> 01:42:39,510
then

2742
01:42:44,870 --> 01:42:42,400
mikey weaseled out so henceforth

2743
01:42:46,709 --> 01:42:44,880
i call him mikey the weasel horn

2744
01:42:48,149 --> 01:42:46,719
and i will continue to call him mikey

2745
01:42:49,750 --> 01:42:48,159
the weasel horn

2746
01:42:51,510 --> 01:42:49,760
uh you know the whole thing is

2747
01:42:53,910 --> 01:42:51,520
ridiculous for anybody to look at those

2748
01:42:55,430 --> 01:42:53,920
pictures and not think they're fake

2749
01:42:59,189 --> 01:42:55,440
you'd have to be

2750
01:43:01,750 --> 01:42:59,199
mentally deficient in some way right who

2751
01:43:03,669 --> 01:43:01,760
who could look at those hokey pictures

2752
01:43:06,310 --> 01:43:03,679
and say yeah that's really an alien

2753
01:43:09,030 --> 01:43:06,320
spacecraft sure it is billy meyer sure

2754
01:43:11,270 --> 01:43:09,040
it is mikey horn it's just ridiculous

2755
01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:11,280
and i felt stupid back on my radio show

2756
01:43:15,750 --> 01:43:13,280
for even wasting my time with it but i

2757
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:15,760
couldn't get like better guests or you

2758
01:43:19,750 --> 01:43:18,000
know so i went yeah we'll go with this

2759
01:43:21,830 --> 01:43:19,760
and i thought kalkur had an interesting

2760
01:43:23,270 --> 01:43:21,840
take on ripping the case to shreds so i

2761
01:43:24,790 --> 01:43:23,280
thought that would be fun

2762
01:43:26,629 --> 01:43:24,800
but

2763
01:43:28,950 --> 01:43:26,639
yeah

2764
01:43:30,629 --> 01:43:28,960
that whole that whole case is ridiculous

2765
01:43:33,189 --> 01:43:30,639
and see i don't want to do a debate with

2766
01:43:35,430 --> 01:43:33,199
mikey horn because i will i will wipe

2767
01:43:36,830 --> 01:43:35,440
the floor with him and his ridiculous

2768
01:43:39,189 --> 01:43:36,840
billy meyer

2769
01:43:41,590 --> 01:43:39,199
garbage and then i'm gonna have to

2770
01:43:43,030 --> 01:43:41,600
suffer six months of trolling by the

2771
01:43:44,870 --> 01:43:43,040
troll patrol

2772
01:43:46,790 --> 01:43:44,880
and and part of me thinks it's like

2773
01:43:49,030 --> 01:43:46,800
mikey horn with a hundred different

2774
01:43:51,350 --> 01:43:49,040
accounts sitting there all day long

2775
01:43:53,270 --> 01:43:51,360
because these things would come you know

2776
01:43:55,910 --> 01:43:53,280
from eight o'clock in the morning until

2777
01:43:57,830 --> 01:43:55,920
midnight all day long and i would be

2778
01:43:59,990 --> 01:43:57,840
getting hammered with these messages

2779
01:44:01,910 --> 01:44:00,000
from these billy meyer cult members or

2780
01:44:03,990 --> 01:44:01,920
mikey horn i don't know everybody knows

2781
01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:04,000
he's got a lot of sock puppet accounts

2782
01:44:08,149 --> 01:44:06,080
and i just don't want i i don't want

2783
01:44:11,030 --> 01:44:08,159
that i don't want to invite the nutter

2784
01:44:12,950 --> 01:44:11,040
into my life again so i say debate

2785
01:44:15,830 --> 01:44:12,960
kalkwarf mikey horn or are you going to

2786
01:44:17,910 --> 01:44:15,840
weasel out of it again

2787
01:44:19,430 --> 01:44:17,920
he's weaseled out at debating mikey uh

2788
01:44:21,430 --> 01:44:19,440
cow court like at least three or four

2789
01:44:23,030 --> 01:44:21,440
times that i'm aware of once with me and

2790
01:44:24,709 --> 01:44:23,040
i have all the emails to prove he

2791
01:44:26,870 --> 01:44:24,719
weaseled out of it maybe someday we'll

2792
01:44:28,629 --> 01:44:26,880
share those but again that would be

2793
01:44:30,229 --> 01:44:28,639
inviting the billy meyer crazy train

2794
01:44:32,070 --> 01:44:30,239
back in my life and i'm trying to keep

2795
01:44:35,189 --> 01:44:32,080
the billy meyer crazy train out of my

2796
01:44:36,790 --> 01:44:35,199
life but i did post this

2797
01:44:39,030 --> 01:44:36,800
uh clip

2798
01:44:41,430 --> 01:44:39,040
of mikey horn citing a convicted child

2799
01:44:43,270 --> 01:44:41,440
molester as proof of an alien laser gun

2800
01:44:45,430 --> 01:44:43,280
and i did that because he was just on

2801
01:44:47,750 --> 01:44:45,440
goof on show and i wanted people to know

2802
01:44:50,229 --> 01:44:47,760
what kind of a person

2803
01:44:51,669 --> 01:44:50,239
mikey horn is and how desperate he is to

2804
01:44:56,229 --> 01:44:51,679
prove his fake

2805
01:44:59,510 --> 01:44:56,239
trash can lid ufo messiah

2806
01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:01,270
no it's not the billy meyer group not

2807
01:45:05,109 --> 01:45:02,800
that i'm aware of it's just another show

2808
01:45:07,270 --> 01:45:05,119
host and i'd rather not mention them so

2809
01:45:09,109 --> 01:45:07,280
you know ask me privately and i'll let

2810
01:45:12,149 --> 01:45:09,119
you know if you really want to know

2811
01:45:14,149 --> 01:45:12,159
anybody everybody knows where to find me

2812
01:45:17,510 --> 01:45:14,159
you can email me at truthseekershow

2813
01:45:18,870 --> 01:45:17,520
gmail.com you can dm me on twitter you

2814
01:45:20,390 --> 01:45:18,880
make sure you follow me on twitter it's

2815
01:45:21,990 --> 01:45:20,400
the best way to keep up with what's

2816
01:45:24,149 --> 01:45:22,000
going on with the show it's just at

2817
01:45:27,830 --> 01:45:24,159
stevencambian on twitter

2818
01:45:29,510 --> 01:45:27,840
uh or you can um you can follow me on

2819
01:45:32,470 --> 01:45:29,520
facebook again it's just stephen

2820
01:45:34,550 --> 01:45:32,480
campbell on facebook and you can pm me

2821
01:45:37,669 --> 01:45:34,560
there as well or dm me on twitter or

2822
01:45:40,149 --> 01:45:37,679
email me at truthseekershow gmail.com

2823
01:45:42,149 --> 01:45:40,159
pretty easy to get a hold of um but i do

2824
01:45:46,070 --> 01:45:42,159
have to mention that i'm always at that

2825
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:46,080
5000 friends limit on facebook so uh

2826
01:45:49,830 --> 01:45:47,280
follow

2827
01:45:52,310 --> 01:45:49,840
check out truthseekers on just search

2828
01:45:54,870 --> 01:45:52,320
for truthseekers on facebook

2829
01:45:57,109 --> 01:45:54,880
and you will find our

2830
01:46:02,709 --> 01:45:57,119
facebook group dedicated solely to truth

2831
01:46:06,229 --> 01:46:03,990
so

2832
01:46:07,910 --> 01:46:06,239
we're going to wrap things up here but

2833
01:46:09,189 --> 01:46:07,920
before i do

2834
01:46:10,470 --> 01:46:09,199
i'm going to thank the incredible

2835
01:46:11,910 --> 01:46:10,480
audience that we had tonight i want to

2836
01:46:13,750 --> 01:46:11,920
thank the incredible guests that we had

2837
01:46:15,510 --> 01:46:13,760
tonight i want to thank all you kind and

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01:46:17,189 --> 01:46:15,520
generous super chatters and super

2839
01:46:18,709 --> 01:46:17,199
sticker people

2840
01:46:20,310 --> 01:46:18,719
it really does mean a lot to me to have

2841
01:46:21,910 --> 01:46:20,320
that support

2842
01:46:23,590 --> 01:46:21,920
this is a viewer supported show there's

2843
01:46:25,270 --> 01:46:23,600
a money button down there

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01:46:27,350 --> 01:46:25,280
throw money at me

2845
01:46:28,950 --> 01:46:27,360
right that's the one of the best ways to

2846
01:46:31,109 --> 01:46:28,960
support the show the other best way to

2847
01:46:34,550 --> 01:46:31,119
support the show is to like comment

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01:46:36,070 --> 01:46:34,560
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01:46:39,990 --> 01:46:38,400
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01:46:44,709 --> 01:46:42,639
address it really does help to increase

2853
01:46:46,709 --> 01:46:44,719
our viewership here

2854
01:46:48,390 --> 01:46:46,719
and the final thing i want to remind

2855
01:46:50,470 --> 01:46:48,400
everybody is if you are listening in

2856
01:46:53,109 --> 01:46:50,480
audio podcast land you're missing half

2857
01:46:55,430 --> 01:46:53,119
the fun we record the shows live and

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then they are distributed to the audio

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you know spreaker uh

2863
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iheartradio spotify amazon music

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01:47:09,910 --> 01:47:08,400
virtually anywhere

2865
01:47:11,750 --> 01:47:09,920
that you can get a podcast just search

2866
01:47:13,270 --> 01:47:11,760
for truth seekers and you'll find us but

2867
01:47:16,470 --> 01:47:13,280
what i want to remind you is that the

2868
01:47:18,229 --> 01:47:16,480
show is recorded live with our live chat

2869
01:47:19,910 --> 01:47:18,239
and this you hear all this interaction

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01:47:21,910 --> 01:47:19,920
you can ask us questions you can ask the

2871
01:47:22,790 --> 01:47:21,920
guest questions it's a very interactive

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01:47:24,310 --> 01:47:22,800
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2873
01:47:26,470 --> 01:47:24,320
and if you're just listening in audio

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01:47:28,629 --> 01:47:26,480
podcast land you're missing half the fun

2875
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so please do go over to youtube and just

2876
01:47:32,790 --> 01:47:31,040
put truth seekers one word in the

2877
01:47:34,790 --> 01:47:32,800
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2878
01:47:37,510 --> 01:47:34,800
guy with sunglasses that would be me

2879
01:47:39,189 --> 01:47:37,520
your host stephen kambian hit the like

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hit the subscribe button hit that

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01:47:47,189 --> 01:47:44,159
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2884
01:47:54,390 --> 01:47:47,199
participate in our live chat you are

2885
01:47:59,270 --> 01:47:57,350
which link is expired friends

2886
01:48:01,430 --> 01:47:59,280
oh i have to do a new discord link yes

2887
01:48:04,390 --> 01:48:01,440
and we also have a discord server

2888
01:48:06,790 --> 01:48:04,400
i will be putting a new discord

2889
01:48:08,950 --> 01:48:06,800
invite link i hate that it expires after

2890
01:48:10,470 --> 01:48:08,960
a week or so i will be putting that on

2891
01:48:13,910 --> 01:48:10,480
twitter as soon as we get off the air

2892
01:48:15,990 --> 01:48:13,920
here tonight so just look for it uh

2893
01:48:17,830 --> 01:48:16,000
yeah oh spooky has made one so there you

2894
01:48:19,669 --> 01:48:17,840
go great and spooky has put it in the

2895
01:48:20,709 --> 01:48:19,679
live chat you want to join our discord

2896
01:48:24,470 --> 01:48:20,719
server

2897
01:48:27,189 --> 01:48:24,480
and i uh i failed at it today but most

2898
01:48:29,590 --> 01:48:27,199
days i check in with discord server or i

2899
01:48:30,870 --> 01:48:29,600
just hang out in there and talk to

2900
01:48:36,229 --> 01:48:30,880
our show

2901
01:48:38,229 --> 01:48:36,239
while i'm working on other things

2902
01:48:39,830 --> 01:48:38,239
throughout the day or night so it's a

2903
01:48:41,830 --> 01:48:39,840
good place if you're interested in these

2904
01:48:44,550 --> 01:48:41,840
topics and the show here it's a good

2905
01:48:46,790 --> 01:48:44,560
place to hang out and uh so it's not

2906
01:48:48,790 --> 01:48:46,800
just when we're doing a live show that

2907
01:48:51,669 --> 01:48:48,800
you can participate in these interesting

2908
01:48:53,910 --> 01:48:51,679
chats with like-minded people it's all

2909
01:48:56,950 --> 01:48:53,920
at all times now thanks to our discord

2910
01:48:58,550 --> 01:48:56,960
server and thanks spooky for making a

2911
01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:58,560
new link

2912
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:00,480
much appreciated spooky and spooky is

2913
01:49:04,950 --> 01:49:02,800
our new clip producer i think that

2914
01:49:07,270 --> 01:49:04,960
spooky is working on

2915
01:49:09,430 --> 01:49:07,280
something great uh called the dark

2916
01:49:12,950 --> 01:49:09,440
playground hypothesis this is my

2917
01:49:16,070 --> 01:49:12,960
hypothesis about the ufo phenomenon and

2918
01:49:18,470 --> 01:49:16,080
uh more about that later um we got a lot

2919
01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:18,480
of stuff to catch up on in future shows

2920
01:49:22,070 --> 01:49:20,320
we've got corey good

2921
01:49:25,910 --> 01:49:22,080
uh corey goods conference being a

2922
01:49:27,510 --> 01:49:25,920
complete and total dismal failure

2923
01:49:29,589 --> 01:49:27,520
uh i shouldn't laugh at a man's

2924
01:49:33,750 --> 01:49:29,599
misfortune but in his case i will allow

2925
01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:33,760
it right uh we've got this angeli right

2926
01:49:37,109 --> 01:49:35,520
what a nothing burger that was but

2927
01:49:39,510 --> 01:49:37,119
people want me to cover it we'll cover

2928
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:39,520
it and then we also have come coming up

2929
01:49:46,790 --> 01:49:42,400
something called phd pantygate what's

2930
01:49:50,070 --> 01:49:46,800
that you say ph.d pantygate yes yes

2931
01:49:52,950 --> 01:49:50,080
noted uh former college professor and

2932
01:49:54,550 --> 01:49:52,960
ufo researcher david jacobs recently got

2933
01:49:57,109 --> 01:49:54,560
cancelled why

2934
01:49:59,750 --> 01:49:57,119
because while one of his uh alien

2935
01:50:02,310 --> 01:49:59,760
abductee contactees was under hypnosis

2936
01:50:03,270 --> 01:50:02,320
he was telling her to send panties

2937
01:50:05,830 --> 01:50:03,280
yeah

2938
01:50:07,510 --> 01:50:05,840
and apparently uh well there's a whole

2939
01:50:09,669 --> 01:50:07,520
controversy about this and it would take

2940
01:50:12,149 --> 01:50:09,679
too long to really explain it but we're

2941
01:50:14,310 --> 01:50:12,159
gonna cover that uh it's called

2942
01:50:16,149 --> 01:50:14,320
pantygate yes that's right

2943
01:50:18,550 --> 01:50:16,159
you too can get canceled from ufo

2944
01:50:21,750 --> 01:50:18,560
conferences for being a creeper and

2945
01:50:26,709 --> 01:50:21,760
asking a girl to send her panties to you

2946
01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:28,149
uh

2947
01:50:34,790 --> 01:50:32,080
excellent show thanks stephen and the

2948
01:50:36,310 --> 01:50:34,800
cash clown and uh

2949
01:50:38,790 --> 01:50:36,320
freedom punch girl says corey goode

2950
01:50:40,229 --> 01:50:38,800
supports billy meyer i was never i have

2951
01:50:43,109 --> 01:50:40,239
never heard that but it wouldn't

2952
01:50:45,030 --> 01:50:43,119
surprise me oh and it's interesting uh

2953
01:50:46,790 --> 01:50:45,040
spooky sent me earlier that corey good

2954
01:50:48,790 --> 01:50:46,800
is throwing michael sala under the bus

2955
01:50:50,550 --> 01:50:48,800
saying his information is not accurate

2956
01:50:53,830 --> 01:50:50,560
so those two probably had a falling out

2957
01:50:58,790 --> 01:50:56,229
yeah mario heat is here welcome back

2958
01:51:01,589 --> 01:50:58,800
where you've been brother uh praise the

2959
01:51:04,310 --> 01:51:01,599
cash praise the cash praise the cash

2960
01:51:06,390 --> 01:51:04,320
good night cambian yeah and on that note

2961
01:51:11,189 --> 01:51:06,400
friends we are going to bounce right out

2962
01:51:15,589 --> 01:51:14,149
i'm not sure what's not okay

2963
01:51:18,310 --> 01:51:15,599
when is the next show the next show is

2964
01:51:21,189 --> 01:51:18,320
tomorrow night at 9 00 pm

2965
01:51:23,030 --> 01:51:21,199
i'm gonna try my best to start keeping a

2966
01:51:25,030 --> 01:51:23,040
schedule so from now on

2967
01:51:27,109 --> 01:51:25,040
uh at least monday through thursday

2968
01:51:28,709 --> 01:51:27,119
there will be a show at 9 00 pm

2969
01:51:30,629 --> 01:51:28,719
i decided i've been a little lazy with

2970
01:51:32,229 --> 01:51:30,639
that and i know but then we might move

2971
01:51:33,990 --> 01:51:32,239
the show to 10 o'clock because i know a

2972
01:51:35,589 --> 01:51:34,000
lot of people want to catch goof on show

2973
01:51:36,950 --> 01:51:35,599
and i think he's on an eight of clock or

2974
01:51:39,030 --> 01:51:36,960
he keeps messing with the times like 8

2975
01:51:40,310 --> 01:51:39,040
15 or something and we'd rather not

2976
01:51:42,229 --> 01:51:40,320
compete so

2977
01:51:43,750 --> 01:51:42,239
and shortly we'd get a bigger audience

2978
01:51:45,109 --> 01:51:43,760
if people weren't bouncing back and

2979
01:51:46,709 --> 01:51:45,119
forth between our two shows and

2980
01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:46,719
sometimes we overlap so we may move it

2981
01:51:51,350 --> 01:51:48,719
to 10 o'clock but for right now

2982
01:51:53,990 --> 01:51:51,360
our shows monday through thursday 9 p.m

2983
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:54,000
eastern standard time however

2984
01:51:57,910 --> 01:51:56,400
uh no thursday monday through wednesday

2985
01:51:59,430 --> 01:51:57,920
thursday is is going to we're going to

2986
01:52:00,390 --> 01:51:59,440
have a show as well this week but it's

2987
01:52:01,669 --> 01:52:00,400
going to be later because i have to

2988
01:52:03,510 --> 01:52:01,679
drive all the way to the cabin and i

2989
01:52:05,510 --> 01:52:03,520
almost never make the nine o'clock show

2990
01:52:08,149 --> 01:52:05,520
time i get there at like 8 50 or

2991
01:52:09,910 --> 01:52:08,159
something and you know and for people

2992
01:52:11,350 --> 01:52:09,920
that don't know the cabin

2993
01:52:13,350 --> 01:52:11,360
you know it takes a little time to get

2994
01:52:15,030 --> 01:52:13,360
the cabin together like i get there and

2995
01:52:16,550 --> 01:52:15,040
i got to turn the power on i got to turn

2996
01:52:17,589 --> 01:52:16,560
the propane on and all this different

2997
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:17,599
stuff

2998
01:52:21,189 --> 01:52:18,480
and

2999
01:52:23,510 --> 01:52:21,199
you know i can't just jump on a stream

3000
01:52:24,629 --> 01:52:23,520
five minutes after i get there

3001
01:52:26,070 --> 01:52:24,639
so

3002
01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:26,080
and i'll keep everybody updated we're

3003
01:52:29,589 --> 01:52:27,520
going to be making an announcement as

3004
01:52:31,030 --> 01:52:29,599
well because in september when my

3005
01:52:32,790 --> 01:52:31,040
children go back to school we're going

3006
01:52:33,750 --> 01:52:32,800
to have an increased schedule what does

3007
01:52:35,830 --> 01:52:33,760
that mean

3008
01:52:38,149 --> 01:52:35,840
we're going to be doing a short show in

3009
01:52:40,310 --> 01:52:38,159
the afternoon like maybe a half hour or

3010
01:52:42,229 --> 01:52:40,320
an hour max and then the long form all

3011
01:52:44,629 --> 01:52:42,239
of the interview shows will be

3012
01:52:45,510 --> 01:52:44,639
at night probably 10 p.m

3013
01:52:47,270 --> 01:52:45,520
um

3014
01:52:49,189 --> 01:52:47,280
there's plenty of things to cover

3015
01:52:52,149 --> 01:52:49,199
there's plenty of things to talk about i

3016
01:52:54,550 --> 01:52:52,159
have a i have a folder right now with

3017
01:52:56,790 --> 01:52:54,560
something like 40 different show topics

3018
01:52:58,629 --> 01:52:56,800
all already researched with things to

3019
01:53:00,950 --> 01:52:58,639
share in each of the

3020
01:53:02,390 --> 01:53:00,960
folders and things like that talking

3021
01:53:06,229 --> 01:53:02,400
points

3022
01:53:07,750 --> 01:53:06,239
script the show but i will have like

3023
01:53:10,149 --> 01:53:07,760
talk about this talk about this talk

3024
01:53:11,030 --> 01:53:10,159
about this anyway we've got a big wealth

3025
01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:11,040
of

3026
01:53:18,390 --> 01:53:16,800
and you know doing three shows a week we

3027
01:53:21,270 --> 01:53:18,400
don't really get to them all but i think

3028
01:53:22,790 --> 01:53:21,280
when we increase things in september

3029
01:53:24,470 --> 01:53:22,800
we're going to be pumping out a lot more

3030
01:53:26,709 --> 01:53:24,480
content

3031
01:53:28,790 --> 01:53:26,719
as long as there's demand now if i start

3032
01:53:30,709 --> 01:53:28,800
doing two shows a day getting the same

3033
01:53:32,310 --> 01:53:30,719
views that i got with one show a day

3034
01:53:34,550 --> 01:53:32,320
then we'll go back to the one show a day

3035
01:53:37,030 --> 01:53:34,560
we got to be flexible here you know

3036
01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:37,040
and and really adapt and overcome and

3037
01:53:41,030 --> 01:53:38,880
that's what we're gonna do here

3038
01:53:42,709 --> 01:53:41,040
so

3039
01:53:44,149 --> 01:53:42,719
i want to thank each and every one of

3040
01:53:48,709 --> 01:53:44,159
you

3041
01:53:50,950 --> 01:53:48,719
hear me say it and and it's true

3042
01:53:52,470 --> 01:53:50,960
i love it

3043
01:53:54,950 --> 01:53:52,480
when there's an audience there's nothing

3044
01:53:58,229 --> 01:53:54,960
worse than putting a lot of passion and

3045
01:54:00,870 --> 01:53:58,239
time and energy into something and then

3046
01:54:02,550 --> 01:54:00,880
it doesn't work out because you show up

3047
01:54:04,470 --> 01:54:02,560
to the gig and

3048
01:54:07,589 --> 01:54:04,480
nobody's there to see it

3049
01:54:09,990 --> 01:54:07,599
i've been there friends i have done that

3050
01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:10,000
and i much prefer it when there's an

3051
01:54:16,550 --> 01:54:14,950
so what can i say friends thank you for

3052
01:54:18,950 --> 01:54:16,560
coming here spending some time with me

3053
01:54:22,390 --> 01:54:18,960
and being a part of mine until next time

3054
01:54:27,900 --> 01:54:22,400
friends my name is stephen cambion

3055
01:54:57,880 --> 01:54:48,290
[Music]

3056
01:55:46,870 --> 01:54:57,890
so

3057
01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:46,880
[Music]

3058
01:55:51,669 --> 01:55:48,250
[Applause]